I can't believe I have just read 20 pages of repetitive misunderstandings and resisted posting until now. I am truely amazed that some people are assuming that the Brigantes are trying to elevate themselves above other fans. Nothing could be further from the truth. The group have been very welcoming of anyone wanting to join in the singing etc. How about I start a new thread about the non-brigantes assuming they are somehow better than the Brigantes? That would be rediculous of course and so I won't. I don't agree with all aspects but I know that all the initiatives are well meant are come from a passionate desire to improve the atmosphere at games which it has achieved.

I have to admit that I personally don't particularly like the Ultras tag simply because it conjures up the wrong image in some people's eyes (whether it is true or not). I also don't agree with the stickers as this could annoy other fans and potentially trigger an unwelcome reaction at future games. Concentrating on building the atmosphere at games is what the Brigantes should concentrate on and what they have done well so far. Oh and I personally don't like the C&W balaclava idea simply because it can create the wrong impression from some quarters.

As for the drum , I always found it a tad annoying but now my son plays the blasted thing I have ended up next to it! It was a ironic that he burst it himself before the Saints play off game because he had worn a hole in it . For those who can't bear it and would threaten to burst it all I would say is go and sit somewhere else. The grounds are big enough. I don't particularly want to sit next to someone in the West stand who doesn't want to sing and make a noise and so I choose not to. My choice. Simples. Conversely if you want to join in the singing created by the Brigantes then choose to sit in S2. If you want to start your own songs then feel free to do so. If they are good then others including S2 will join in.

Just to throw my opinion in while everyone else is....

Although not a "Brigante" myself I can perfectly understand why the name came about. When trying to raise money it is important you have an identity and this name has provided them with the platform to do so. They have been able to market themselves to raise money. I believe this was their pure motivation and not one to try and separate themselves from everyone else.

Unfortunately this does leave them open to ridicule but it is a price I think they have to pay in order to raise money.

I'm happy they are trying to improve the atmosphere at home games (although I probably won't be joining in) and away from home.

As one who has stood at away games singing away and hoping that everyone would join in prior to the Brigantes I can see only good that more fans are now joining in.

I'm a bit bewildered by why a 15 year old Latics fan would pay money to come and watch Lockers' testimonial but will give the benefit of the doubt.

As I said a week ago and quite a bit last season....why can't we just all get along??!!

Fair post that Woody.
I know that you were there pre-Brigantes trying to get an atmosphere going and that you still do it.
As for not getting along. I think we've seen a fair few people seizing the opportunity to have a go here. If it wasn't over this issue, it would've been anything else, sooner or later. One or two have had their feathers ruffled with an increase in the Brigantes popularity whilst others (including a Mod on here) have clashed with members in the past and have had their s handed to them on a plate over certain issues so they have decided to weigh in too. All good fun. It'll still be the Ultras Brigantes at the end of the season.

Tell you what Brett. How bout u pay me £5 a week and you can watch the game at mine on the net with no noise and no atmosphere?

Alternatively, I hear NASA are looking for astronauts

Was there ever a "sneaky suspicion"?

What a completely stupid post with content amounting to thinley veiled (if veiled at all) libel.

I thought the coalition was tory/lib dems?

in all honesty, ive tried to read all the posts in this thread that have been made since Friday but to be quite honest, its bored the ar$e off me

the 'Brigantes' have taken it upon themselves to 'try' and create a better atmosphere at Wigan games. Im willing to bet that not one single member thought to take a poll of other the Wigan fans (season ticket holders would be the best starting point) to find out whether they wanted a change or not

have they not considered that many wigan fans may be quite happy with the atmosphere at games and not want a lot of mindless, football copying, drum banging noise to be inflicted on them?

dont get me wrong, i used to be a ST holder in the south (before my toddler stole all my money) and i did enjoy a good sing song throughout the game.

BUT

Wigan has a diverse age range for its fans and the old gent who lives on my street and is still a ST holder (although he prolly sits in the west stand) might not want to have a load of noise shouted at him from the other 2 home stands. indeed, he might find some of it quite offensive

to me, it seems that the 'Brigantes' think they are doing something that every Wigan fan wants and this clearly isnt the case. you/they need to be careful about alientating yourself/themselves from, what is the majority (and i admit i dont know your membership numbers) of Wigan fans as you will begin to be viewed as outsiders or 'ultras'