Be happy ,you won.

Great game will watch it again.

I come in peace…..

That was what I’d call a proper derby. It felt like every tackle counted. It was as tense as I’ve known it for years.

I think the officials collectively bottled the Dupree one. It was intentional; a clear red for me. If anything the Byrne one was a yellow and they got them the wrong way round.

I think the result was fair. The scoreline possibly flatters us with the Hurrell try. As predicted we came out all guns blazing and dominated for long long spells early doors but Wigan’s defence was superb.

After the red card we were patient and just waited for the right moment and in the end I genuinely don’t think anyone on here can argue with the outcome.

It was a fantastic game between the two teams clearly ahead of the rest.

As the old saying goes; we’ve won the battle but not the war. (Yet).

“Busted flush.”

Night lad.

Honestly off

You ok Peps?

Go on, I'll give you a bite

I've been quite complementary on here about Saints, how good you are, how weird it is with people complaining about RedVee, how Bell should have played etc. That's not a new thing either. I backed McManus after the CC mess up and I have zero issues with Saints as a club. I actually respect you guys.

However, the fact Saints fans want to come on here, after that horrendous performance by the ref and try to say you deserve the win boils my pi$$. This whole sticking to tribal lines things is literally killing the game imo.

Before you say I'm doing the same, I said Moore was awful in the WCC win and I've knocked the refs after plenty of wins we've had this year too.

All I wanted was a derby game. 13 v 13, slug fest. Sadly & literally from the 3min and the "pen" against Byrne being 9.99m away from the guy who bottled the kick, Kuntdall gave us nothing. I can name loads of decisions that he simply ignored for us. It was one way traffic and a massive middle finger to every Wigan and neutral fan watching.

Laugh all you want, but this whole "we won" so I'll gloat BS doesn't help anything or anyone.

I think I've posted enough on here to comfortably say, I'd be saying the same if we'd have won.

It was at half time and last time I looked this was a Wigan v Saints thread

Sorry you lost me at Kuntdall. You a grown adult yeah?

Why was it a red? Serious question.

I do feel for you, because we can debate all day about the way the rules are going and on that I’m 100% in agreement with you that the game is becoming lame and that having multiple cards per game is properly killing the game as an entertainment spectacle and it’s always deflating when a card just changes the momentum of a game and it seems like it’s happening in at least one game every single week so on the wider discussion, I’m with you.

However, they ARE the rules and the ref applied them correctly so to say he was horrendous is just false. I thought he had a decent game overall. He missed a few things of course but I’ve never seen a ref have a perfect game in my life

He was leading with the elbow and attacked the head. I understand the point about mitigation hitting the chest first and on that basis I have no issue with it not being a red, but I thought it was because leading with the elbow has always been illegal on its own even if you take out the head contact.

That said I always hate people crying for red cards, idk why people are so eager to have their opponents at a disadvantage but you see it every week. People are seriously suggesting Dodd should have had a RED for tripping field. Bizarre

I found it ironic that it was Lees who Dupree did that to. If they crack down on leading with the none ball carrying arm, Lees will need a season ticket in the main stand. I’ve been banging on about Lees doing that for the last few seasons.

Leading with the elbow could have broke Matty Lees,jaw

If his jaw was attached to his chest then I would agree.

Had he caught him on it then yes. I had no issue with the yellow and I wouldn’t have been surprised if it was a red because players shouldn’t be doing it, regardless of where the contact is. Matty Lees is by far the worst player in the league for doing it however, so I’ll await with interest how the refs handle it the next time he does it (which will be in the next game) and how Saints fans react to it.