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| Quote shambawangy="shambawangy"And at 20 years of age he could serve us for a good 10-14 years, most people around here seem to struggle with the long term future, they should remember that success is built on the long term, letting ainscough go would be hypocritical aswell as a blow to the club for the medium/long term.'"
This is the point I was trying to make with my previous post. At the end of his current deal Pat hasn't got a lot of years left in him. Ainscough has.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"By sending Ainscough out on loan, Michael Maguire is the second coach in a row to decide that he isn't ready for the Wigan first team.
I find it difficult to believe that he has the same unreasonable downer on Ainscough that Noble supposedly had.
Maybe there's something at the root of this, which we don't notice when all we see of Ainscough are his heroics on Sky TV.
Could it be an attitude problem? I don't know, but perhaps the time has come when we should trust the coaching staff's judgement. They are much closer to Ainscough than almost anyone on this board will ever be.
For what it's worth, I don't think Ainscough making comments on TV about not liking being sent out on loan, or even giving that impression, will help his cause one little bit. I get the feeling that Maguire runs a tight ship, and prefers people who are on message.'"
He's just scored a hat trick (again) so you can't find fault there so lets [umake something up[/u about an attitude problem. Unbelievable.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"He's just scored a hat trick (again) so you can't find fault there so lets [umake something up[/u about an attitude problem. Unbelievable.
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So what's your explanation?
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| The truth is Ainscough as an [iall round[/i winger is not as good as Richards or Roberts.
He is an awesome talent and the coaching staff have recognised he needs to be playing the highest level he can in order to iron out a few minor issues in his game. I have no doubt when the time is right providing he irons out the few problems in his game and has the right attitude Ainscough will be a Wigan winger week in week out.
Until this time comes I think we have the perfect situation with all wingers getting game time at SL level.
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| I am stunned at this. I remember Robinson getting slammed for his weakness' I remember him losing us 2 or 3 games with errors under kick pressure.
Thank god he was not judged the same way Ainscough is being at the moment.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"I am stunned at this. I remember Robinson getting slammed for his weakness' I remember him losing us 2 or 3 games with errors under kick pressure.
Thank god he was not judged the same way Ainscough is being at the moment.
Stunning.'"
Exactly. There must be some reason why he's being sent elsewhere.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"So what's your explanation?'"
Not one that involves speculating he's been sent on loan because he has an attitude problem.
If you want me to speculate I think they could not send Goulding out on a dual reg contract in the first place to Widnes due to the rules so Ainscough went instead.
As to why they cancelled the dual reg agreement with Widnes to send him on loan to Cas instead of bringing him into the 1st team, I have no idea but I don't think there are any grounds for suggesting it's down to an attitude problem.
It could be as others have said the club prefers SL experience for him for a month. Who knows but what I do know is I have not seen such an obviously talented young player have people overstating his frailties and have people speculating on his attitude like they do with Ainscough. I completely fail to see what he has done to deserve it.
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| Because he has shown flaws BUT the way some go on the lad is a no hoper. We have a strong back 3 but many people are writing him off for no real reason.
He is a real talent and he has proven himself. The lad is not perfect but who is. Personally I would say he is having a better season than Sam Tomkins who has been poor generally thus far in a dominant team. Funny how 1 players flaws are highlighted on here but another's are totally ignored.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"Not one that involves speculating he's been sent on loan because he has an attitude problem.
If you want me to speculate I think they could not send Goulding out on a dual reg contract in the first place to Widnes due to the rules so Ainscough went instead.
As to why they cancelled the dual reg agreement with Widnes to send him on loan to Cas instead of bringing him into the 1st team, [uI have no idea [/ubut I don't think there are any grounds for suggesting it's down to an attitude problem.
It could be as others have said the club prefers SL experience for him for a month. Who knows but what I do know is I have not seen such an obviously talented young player have people overstating his frailties and have people speculating on his attitude like they do with Ainscough. I completely fail to see what he has done to deserve it.
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Just posting that would have been simpler and more accurate.
None of us do, it seems. But you speculate plenty when it suits you.
Perhaps, for once, we should just trust the coaching staff.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"He is a real talent and he has proven himself. The lad is not perfect but who is. Personally I would say he is having a better season than Sam Tomkins who has been poor generally thus far in a dominant team. Funny how 1 players flaws are highlighted on here but another's are totally ignored.'"
Sam Tomkins problems (such as they are) are ignored IMO because he is young player who is very talented and he tries stuff and backs himself. The exact same ought to be able to be said of Ainscough but for some reason his flaws (such as they are) are under a spotlight. I don't get it.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"Sam Tomkins problems (such as they are) are ignored IMO because he is young player who is very talented and he tries stuff and backs himself. The exact same ought to be able to be said of Ainscough but for some reason his flaws (such as they are) are under a spotlight. I don't get it.
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For once Dave i agree. In my opinion Tomkins has more issues with his game than Ainscough. But both are quality players. Yet one is highlighted.
We have potentially 2 world class players, Ainscough has torn the best age group players they have to offer to bits.
Lets stop bagging him and see it as it is or lets judge all the junior players on the same level.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"Just posting that would have been simpler and more accurate. '"
And it's more accurate than speculating he has an attitude problem isn't it!
Quote CruncherNone of us do, it seems. But you speculate plenty when it suits you.
Perhaps, for once, we should just trust the coaching staff.'"
You are the one doing the speculating, not me.
Then you invited me to join in with the speculation why he was sent on loan and when I do, you are suggesting I should not have done so? Give over.
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