An actual terrace would be great but I agree that the safe standing areas are pretty pointless. I've been in them a few times and everyone tends to sit down anyway.

I drove past the Orrell training ground on Tuesday, it looks as though there is a lot of work going on there.

Being upgraded to house the ladies RL team and the Latics ladies

I think I may have used the incorrect terminology Phuzzy.
I actually mean standing terracing as per Wire, Saints, Salford.
Personally I prefer to stand whilst watching a game. For me it adds to the atmosphere and I can avoid the perpetual standing up and sit down whilst people go past my seat to go to the bar and/or toilets.
I know the likelihood of getting standing terracing is nil but the owd fart in me still pines for that experience for an home game.

Isn't the standing at Saints and Wire just behind the goals? Does any club have standing on the sides of the pitch?

A complaint I've heard lately is that the Brick is "too cold" because of the dreaded 'corner gaps'.

Don't most (not all) grounds have corner gaps?

At Wire we stand behind the sticks.
The terrace along the touch line to our right and facing the player's entrance is standing.

Leeds South Stand is split, terracing at the bottom and seats along the top. I do like the idea of terracing but feel the owners have other priorities first. Would they even entertain such a move if they have aspirations on getting Latics back into the top of division's. (Stadia in the PL has to be all seater or small sections safe standing), not sure about Championship.

Surely by changing the structure of the stadium it would imply the owners are happy for them to be swimming around the L1, L2 divisions without being too ambitious.

I do believe it would be great for us and help to add to the atmosphere at big games. Maybe even potentially increase ground capacity? Imagine South & North Stand full terracing on Good Friday, from 25k to 28-30k? Think of the noise.

I think it's probably a nice pipe dream though.

I keep hearing that it "adds to the atmosphere". Does it? People getting annoyed because they can't see because someone bigger has decided to stand in front of them? The best atmospheres by far this season were Catalans away and Hull KR at home. Neither game had standing.

Just my opinion but I don't see the attraction of standing. I hate away grounds like Saints where you're pretty much forced to stand whether you want to or not if you want to be with your own supporters. Yes, I know there are other options but with so much standing room only, it makes it much more difficult. You also generally get the 'part timers' who are only there on a up making a nuisance of themselves too. I'd much prefer Saints was all seating like an actual 21st century stadium than packing people like cattle into standing pens, having people spilling over onto the stairs and walkways and generally being a throwback to the dark ages.

Each to their own though I suppose.

i've been trying to remember the year but think it was early 90s that we played Oldham in one of the cups. Absolutely baltic, and one of my mates girlfriends had to leave with hypothermia

coldest i've ever been was HKR away in January on a Wednesday night, and i went over in my shirt (wasnt the brightest idea i've ever had), and there was a slightly cold wind coming in off the estuary, ,well before the trees had established themselves in the old away end

You do make a good point and I have to say that now as a Dad, I prefer seating for the home games but I do like standing away from home as it tends to be the more vocal fans away from home, so all standing together creates a good atmosphere. My eldest lad has just turned 14 so is big enough now not to have his view restricted whilst standing- my youngest lad who is 11 has no interest in going to games.

I think you are never going to please everyone, be it an all-seater, predominantly standing or a mixture of both.

Wigan away games standing on the terraces are miles better for atmosphere with the exception of Headingley due to the open end.

Saints away, Wire away and even Salford away stand above (pardon the pun) to seated away ends.

I bet he has Stu, he’s a secret Wigan fan and he doesn’t want to upset you