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| Quote: Jukesays "It was deemed Hiku didn't make contact
From Fields lack of reaction and what I watched 10+ times I would just about agree
Only seen Smiths back once, looked like he made contact to me albeit I don't think there was much force'"
I've only seen it during the match as chose not to watch it back for some reason On the multiple replays on the day I didn't see any contact and you would normally get stills flooding social media if there had been and I haven't seen any.
I'm not going to complain too much, as I say. I thought Hiku did make contact, albeit minimal, and was worthy of a ban regardless of contact as the intent was clearly there. They don't punish intent though, so if Smith hasn't made contact I'd hope they would at least be consistent*
*I know... consistency and the disciplinary don't belong in the same sentence!
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| Quote: Phuzzy "I've only seen it during the match as chose not to watch it back for some reason
I'd give him three games for pure stupidity.
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| The two 21's should be interesting, should be a prize for whoever can name both 17's correctly
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| Quote: Phuzzy "I never want to lose against Saints, Itchy, but I feel we're in a "bigger picture" situation at the moment and losing Doris the tea lady (see other thread
If Mago was capable of doing more than 15 minutes I just don’t see how Peet wouldn’t have got more minutes out of him.
The next few weeks will tell us how good players like Mago, Byrne, Walters and Hill really are. Byrne needs to do a job on Walmsley, Mago needs to be effective for longer minutes, Walters needs show that he really has great potential and Hill needs to lift his tempo. I’m hoping Forber plays as this will keep our ptb quicker and hopefully get us on the front foot more often than not.
I’m not a fan of “magic” weekend but I’m now looking forward to see how we react to current loss of form and enforced changes.
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| Quote: Itchy Arsenal "If Mago was capable of doing more than 15 minutes I just don’t see how Peet wouldn’t have got more minutes out of him.
The next few weeks will tell us how good players like Mago, Byrne, Walters and Hill really are. Byrne needs to do a job on Walmsley, Mago needs to be effective for longer minutes, Walters needs show that he really has great potential and Hill needs to lift his tempo. I’m hoping Forber plays as this will keep our ptb quicker and hopefully get us on the front foot more often than not.
I’m not a fan of “magic” weekend but I’m now looking forward to see how we react to current loss of form and enforced changes.'"
Forber is a must for me, his delivery from the ptb can be the difference in winning and losing.
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| Forber also provides the option to move Leeming into the halves if needed.
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| Quote: Itchy Arsenal "
The next few weeks will tell us how good players like Mago, Byrne, Walters and Hill really are. Byrne needs to do a job on Walmsley, Mago needs to be effective for longer minutes, Walters needs show that he really has great potential and Hill needs to lift his tempo. I’m hoping Forber plays as this will keep our ptb quicker and hopefully get us on the front foot more often than not.
I’m not a fan of “magic” weekend but I’m now looking forward to see how we react to current loss of form and enforced changes.'"
As I keep saying Itchy, he has. Several times last season and he went fine. That's why I don't understand the reluctance this season. He doesn't look any less fit.
*I'll try to find the relevant threads from last year if I get chance.
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| Quote: Phuzzy "As I keep saying Itchy, he has. Several times last season and he went fine. That's why I don't understand the reluctance this season. He doesn't look any less fit.
*I'll try to find the relevant threads from last year if I get chance.'"
I believe you Phuzzy but Peet must have his reasons for not increasing his minutes and the same can be said for Byrne, Walters and Hill. My initial thoughts were that he doesn’t trust them but maybe they maybe carrying injuries which means that they aren’t able to train properly? I’m not sure what it is but I’m pretty sure that it isn’t that Peet doesn’t want to rotate his squad.
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| Quote: Itchy Arsenal "I believe you Phuzzy but Peet must have his reasons for not increasing his minutes and the same can be said for Byrne, Walters and Hill. My initial thoughts were that he doesn’t trust them but maybe they maybe carrying injuries which means that they aren’t able to train properly? I’m not sure what it is but I’m pretty sure that it isn’t that Peet doesn’t want to rotate his squad.'"
Actually Byrne is the better example. He was always regarded as a long minutes prop but now plays the same 15 minute cameos that Mago plays. It's quite strange. My own take on it is he just likes Thompson, Harvard and Ellis better but running them into the ground is short sighted to say the least.
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| Quote: Phuzzy "Actually Byrne is the better example. He was always regarded as a long minutes prop but now plays the same 15 minute cameos that Mago plays. It's quite strange. My own take on it is he just likes Thompson, Harvard and Ellis better but running them into the ground is short sighted to say the least.'"
I’d be a little disappointed if Peet’s lack of rotation is because he just wants to play his best 3 props at the maximum for every game. What would be the point in having so many props in the squad if he didn’t think at the beginning of the season that he would need to rely on a good depth of available props?
I haven’t got a clue what it is but Peet has more than enough credit in the bank to make mistakes and I for one can accept the mistakes as long as we learn from them. There is a bit of pressure now on Peet and I’m confident he will learn and pull through our current malaise. I can’t wait to see the 21 for Saturday particularly who is going to play 6.
I’ve always given Byrne maximum support even when he’s not always deserving. I really thought that he was going to kick on but he’s regressed this season and I suspect that he along with Walters is struggling with the tackle technique now required. I hope he’s selected for Saturday and Waney is in his ear on the need to stifle Walmsley when he comes on.
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| 3 matches for Smith
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| Quote: Phuzzy "3 matches for Smith'"
Reduced from 6 because it was Bentley
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| Quote: apollosghost "The two 21's should be interesting, should be a prize for whoever can name both 17's correctly'"
There's so many different directions he could go in but based on what I've seen from Wellens' selections this year I'd take a stab at the following:
Robertson
Makinson
Davies
Blake
Ritson
Bell
Mbye
Lees
Burns
Walmsley
Sironen
Whitley
Paasi
Subs
Matautia
Batchelor
Stephens
Fuck knows, but thinking it will be Vaughan/Royle
Would like him to give roberts his debut instead so bell can play loose forward and I think the side would be overall a little more balanced that way, but it's a big big call to make against you lot at Magic so I'd be pretty surprised. Think he will go Bell for his defensive capabilities or at a push, Davies at half and Whitley/Vaughan at centre
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| Quote: The Reaper "There's so many different directions he could go in but based on what I've seen from Wellens' selections this year I'd take a stab at the following
What would your 17 be Stu based on what you have seen this season?
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