This is what you get when you play "middles" and not proper 2nd rowers who run good lines, we really are missing Farrell on this front.

It's PP spouting off again.about time they put an ignore button on here.

What has Rads done to warrant him losing his position?

On the playing front I think next year we are an experienced utility back away from as good as we will get.

We don't need wholesale changes, if we did it would just make IL and KR inept, which they're not. We need minor changes such as an assistant with clout, that someone with focus on our attack, preferably fresh from the NRL, preferably a former test/origin halfback.

Adrian Lam or Trent Barrett would do for me.

KR has given Smith a 4 year contract, resigned JT, signed Pettyboune Isa Laukaki, allowed SW to continue despite consistently failing recently in big matches and allowed the general demeanour of the club to fall to niggly whinging team of part timers.
Will that do for starters?
He is totally and utterly out of his depth.
I can only assume he has zero control of financial matters but obviously indirectly everything falls into pounds shillings and pence.
He has signed TL who never cut it as a top class half and in all honesty I could kick better than TL after 5 or 6 pints of Hydes. Unless TL is our next coach I don't understand the signing.
KR is far too close to SW. it's a relationship doomed due to the cosy mates relationship and his inability to see that we are going backwards.
The buck stops at the top and KR is at the top of the pile.

Isa runs good lines but couldnt burst through a wet paper bag. Never a second row forward. Hes a centre and should have stayed there. I think the reality is we are not as good as we thought we were and actually are a mid table side. Might be spending the cap but so are most now and had some shocking signings and taken in too many young players

ISA couldn't pass a decent ball if his life depended on it.
Useless forward and I couldn't even try to consider him to be a centre.
He epitomises what is wrong with the club. No thought, no brains but a good lad.

I agree Isa is not a top player but to be fair he was not signed as a starting player but as a squad player. He has played far more games than expected, for most of the season Tomkins (J), Farrell, Bateman, Lockers have been missing (often several at once) so Isa has had to play a lot more. As a low price squad player I doubt anyone would have had many issues but as a week in week out starting player he has been lacking. We have had to play Sutton or Tauti in the second row, Mossop as LF for heavens sake. We even lost Gregson who was showing up well. I think Isa whilst not being a stand out player has been steady but obviously when everyone is fit (if that ever happens) he will be at best a interchange player.

My concern is the amount of injuries that we always seem to get and not all of them occur on the playing field quite a number happen in training. Either the conditioning of the players is wrong, or and as I suspect they are being flogged at training.

Have to say, Itchy, I watched the Warriors' golden point win over Penrith shortly after reading that, and if you can land the ball on a dime as Tommy did for Fusitua's try I suggest you get down to the DW pronto with your boots!

Again, in all seriousness, Tommy had a fine game, as he has the last few outings I've seen him, alternating between 7 and 9, linking the play well, still making those bell-ringer trademark tackles, and generally making a better balanced pair with Shaun Johnson than they've had since they mysteriously chose to give Chad Townsend back to the Sharks.

If we could get a good season out of him doing that, and then a coaching role moving on from there, I'd be well happy.

Our club is run by a very closely knit clique

You could in fact call it "The Self Preservation Society" in the way that they all seem to go about their duties unchallenged

That is fine when things are being run correctly and when the club is moving in the right direction,
IMO we are on a downward spiral and our club urgently needs a completely new and fresh approach in order to stop us stagnating in the alarming fashion that we are in recent seasons

A new head coach who is fully responsible for signing players is a must, Let him also bring in an accomplished assistant of his choice, Then we can start to bring back the Wigan way and start winning games with style and flair

Regardless of if we win owt at all this season................I'm bored of watching this 5H1TE

I think that last line sums up how an awful lot of fans, me included, are feeling.
If we get beaten, fine, that's sport, but I don't think I can put up with the boredom factor much longer.
Watching the same set of six being repeated for 80 mins is becoming too much like hard work.

It really is a matter of signing the best players. I thought Radford would have been sacked after Hull's failures over the past two years. However, he has signed great players, is using the same tactics and as a result they have made it to the to of the league and the challenge cup final.
I have watched Wigan for over 50 years and in that time we have never had a slower hooker than McIlorum or Powell and Smith is the slowest scrum half I have ever seen. The spine of our team is broken in 2 very important positions.