Just watched the London game. Greenwood has done himself a few favours today. Will he get a shot next season?

Was thinking that myself, can we not recall Greenwood? Could do with him at the minute, same with Hopkins.

Greenwood had a good game for London. For his long term development he's better off where he is getting game time every week rather than covering an injury crisis for a few weeks.

No Watkins or Briscoe for Leeds

Starting; Bowen, Manfredi, Gelling, Sarginson, Burgess, Green, Smith, Dudson, Williams, Taylor, Hughes, Bateman, Mcllorum

On top of Burrow, Aiton and JJB. That's five players from first choice 17.

Yes I know Wigan also many missing plenty, but some of those reserves anyway. Not quite the big mismatch made out, although accepted Wigan have more out.

Charnley, goulding, o'loughlin, clubb, flower and Farrell not one of those a reserves! try taking Hall, Sinfield, Peacock, Ablett and Delany and then it may be similar excluding your current injuries.

Not one of Leeds are a reserve, isn't Goulding on the bench btw?

I never said they are, I was comparing them like for like. And i haven't seen the actual team sheet so if he is my apologies be interesting to understand that decision.

You didn't tho, Sinfield is Leeds starting half, you're not missing that. I'd also say Flower isn't your main prop (Taylor) like Peacock is ours.

Wigan subs

Goulding
Sutton
Sam Powell
Crosby

Sinfield is your leader just like o'loughlin is ours. and Flower is the main starting prop and has been for a couple of years now. So yes i did even if you disagree with it.

Why do I need to take those out? As stated we are already missing five players from the first choice 17. As you said you are missing Charnley, O'Loughlin, Clubb, Flower and Farrell, from first choice 17. Five players.

I wasn't trying to have a p15sing contest, as I accepted Wigan had more players missing. Just pointing out the reality of the first choice 17.

But the you took out our starting loose in Delaney.

So which is it? Sinfield for leadership or Delaney at loose?

Are you missing both hookers like Burrow and Aiton?

i am comparing players who play similar roles Delany for Farrell and not Ablett I'm not saying position for position. its also not a ing contest more of a showing that we are missing a a lot of leadership and big game players.

its a bit unfair to say the injuries balance them selves out considering you still have your first choice winger, captain and senior prop and over all we have more injuries in the forwards.

But you said on the previous page it was like for like, go back and look it's still there.

If Farrell is Delaney then who is for Ablett?

I agree it's not a pi**ing contest, just pointing out the flaws in the comparisons.

I would say Wigan are more effected by their absentees, but that's because the players stepping up for us are better.

No Leeds aren't missing first choice wing or prop, neither are Wigan missing two hookers and having to play a second row there and drag Sinfield out of position to do a job there too. Regarding that, Sutcliffe has come on in previous games when Si field has moved to 9. He's at centre tonight so we have to reshuffle too there.