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Quote: Jukesays "It must be pretty Bad, when you click on the Link it's got an "X" rating!!!


Thats how I see it.
I want Wigan to win with a full team not players missing with foul play or injuries as we don't need reasons/excuses from them on why they lost apart from the usual ones-
Ref is biased
Every try by Wigan was a knock-on followed by a forward pass
Wigan lying all over the player slowing the play-the ball down
We (Saints) are still suffering from playing in Australia
The weather suited Wigan
It's not fair we should have won
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Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock "I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count" [quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote] Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!" I thanked him and went on my Merry way! RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015! "The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth." Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg



Quote: sergeant pepper "That's an absolute BS suspension and I'd be livid if it was against us.

I'm pretty sure that between the g!mp referees and the MRP, they don't actually care about spectators, or the spectacle on show. It's all about them and their "mitigating factors", or "processes". No one in their right mind wants players sitting in the stands when they are fit to play, regardless of what they've done.

Fans and Sky deserve better, but sadly all that matters are the refs and the people above them.'"


I think you need go and have a quiet lie down

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RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!! Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg



Red Vee have taken the news with maturity and class

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Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock "I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count" [quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote] Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!" I thanked him and went on my Merry way! RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015! "The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth." Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg



Quote: NSW "Red Vee have taken the news with maturity and class'"


Whilst largely agreeing there are a few who see it as I see it.
It’ll get drowned out in the noise, and that's part of the trouble they have, any descenting voices against the "There's an anti Saints conspiracy" is silenced by the vociferous minority (when I say minority I mean overall, not just in that board where they certainly are a majority).

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Quote: Jukesays "I think you need go and have a quiet lie down'"


Why? Because I don't buy into the brainwashed narrative?

Honestly, you come across as an intelligent guy, so I can't believe I have to spell out how simplistic this is...

Outside of the Grand Final, Friday is about as close as it comes to a game being what you'd call "box office". If there are neutrals out there with a passing interest in RL (which there are), then this is the game they are going to watch.

It's almost too obvious to point out that the easiest and most straightforward way to convert them - is to deliver the best spectacle possible on the pitch. Having the best players out there, is the quickest route to delivering that's. It's that simple.

Literally everyone has done their job this week. Both teams have raised the bar in recent years. The fans have sold out the stadium. Those who can't get tickets are scrambling around for them and those who can't go, will probably pack out the pubs to watch it. Those incharge of the game however, have decided to put an inform player in the stands. It's madness.

Want to see how it should be handled and how there's more at stake than just immediate "justice"? Read how Vegas approaches box office attractions rlhttps://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id/7432860/floyd-mayweather-jr-avoids-jail-time-junerl

Ban Bell for the week after. Fine him more. FFS, just let the players play on Good Friday and let's do the fixture and sport the peg up it deserves.

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RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!! Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg



Saints open this week as 2 point favourites with the bookies. About right. Would swing in our favourite if Dodd/Makinson/Knowles miss out.

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If anyone has one spare ticket pls message me

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Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock "I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count" [quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote] Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!" I thanked him and went on my Merry way! RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015! "The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth." Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg



Quote: sergeant pepper "Why? Because I don't buy into the brainwashed narrative?

Honestly, you come across as an intelligent guy, so I can't believe I have to spell out how simplistic this is...

Outside of the Grand Final, Friday is about as close as it comes to a game being what you'd call "box office". If there are neutrals out there with a passing interest in RL (which there are), then this is the game they are going to watch.

It's almost too obvious to point out that the easiest and most straightforward way to convert them - is to deliver the best spectacle possible on the pitch. Having the best players out there, is the quickest route to delivering that's. It's that simple.

Literally everyone has done their job this week. Both teams have raised the bar in recent years. The fans have sold out the stadium. Those who can't get tickets are scrambling around for them and those who can't go, will probably pack out the pubs to watch it. Those incharge of the game however, have decided to put an inform player in the stands. It's madness.

Want to see how it should be handled and how there's more at stake than just immediate "justice"? Read how Vegas approaches box office attractions rlhttps://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id/7432860/floyd-mayweather-jr-avoids-jail-time-junerl

Ban Bell for the week after. Fine him more. FFS, just let the players play on Good Friday and let's do the fixture and sport the peg up it deserves.'"


Have you looked at what he did? (Bell)
Nope, sorry, you don't need to

Because it doesn't matter what they've done, they could literally decapitate someone, stamp on ankles/legs and snap them and it wouldn't matter
It's best for the game that players play no matter what they've done

As per previous response on other thread, I won't be going back amd forth on this, your stance on officials, name calling etc and the way you phrase their involvement in games isn't my style.
Last week Vella was pedantic beyond belief, it spoiled the game, butnid argue he was probably right on 95% of his decisions. IMO he just needs to learn how to manage the game better because.you literally could penalise someone in wvery tackle. He needs to work at that, and ill 100% guarantee that there'll be a whole lot kore goes into making that better, as with every ref and official than you will ever know.

It'll never be perfect, it never was

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Quote: Jukesays "Have you looked at what he did? (Bell)
Nope, sorry, you don't need to

Because it doesn't matter what they've done, they could literally decapitate someone, stamp on ankles/legs and snap them and it wouldn't matter
It's best for the game that players play no matter what they've done

As per previous response on other thread, I won't be going back amd forth on this, your stance on officials, name calling etc and the way you phrase their involvement in games isn't my style.
Last week Vella was pedantic beyond belief, it spoiled the game, butnid argue he was probably right on 95% of his decisions. IMO he just needs to learn how to manage the game better because.you literally could penalise someone in wvery tackle. He needs to work at that, and ill 100% guarantee that there'll be a whole lot kore goes into making that better, as with every ref and official than you will ever know.

It'll never be perfect, it never was'"


What a cop out. You're basically saying the development of refs and the MRP are the single most important thing the game needs to focus on.

Did you read the article I linked too?
Nope, sorry, you don't need to.

The RFL is always right in these matters. Other sports?? Pffffft, we don't need that malarkey around here. It's RL. What will they think of next? Maximising the potential for making money, or giving a toss about the fans on the terraces. That's crazy talk.

You admit he spoiled the game, but hey it doesn't matter as he was technically right with his calls. Let's all laugh at the mugs who sat in the freezing cold watching it. It's all about him at the end of the day. The mugs will keep turning up and the even bigger mugs will keep defending us.

You're enabling of the RFL and the refs helps no one. All it does is lead to situations where the sport continues to decline.

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Quote: NSW "Saints open this week as 2 point favourites with the bookies. About right. Would swing in our favourite if Dodd/Makinson/Knowles miss out.'"

That sures me thought Wigan would have been

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Quote: thesaint71 "That sures me thought Wigan would have been'"

Can't see why you would think that. Saints at home, unbeaten apart from the red card game and Wigan haven't won at your place in several years. Also, despite winning, we haven't been playing particularly well. Saints favourites although not by a lot.

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Are Saints not appealing the ban? They have form recently and it's proven to be mostly successful.

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RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!! Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg



Quote: Phuzzy "Can't see why you would think that. Saints at home, unbeaten apart from the red card game and Wigan haven't won at your place in several years. Also, despite winning, we haven't been playing particularly well. Saints favourites although not by a lot.'"

Don’t think we’ve won at Saints in front of fans in about 6 years. Pretty sure it was under Wane.

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Quote: MattyB "Are Saints not appealing the ban? They have form recently and it's proven to be mostly successful.'"


Believe the RFL made the decision, heard the first, second, third, fourth and fifth appeals this afternoon, then had a phone call from Saints lawyers and are currently awaiting word on when it will go to the Court of Arbitration for Sport. If that fails for Saints, they’re going to the European court of human rights in Strasbourg and failing that they’re going before the Britains Got Talent judges.

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Quote: NSW "Don’t think we’ve won at Saints in front of fans in about 6 years. Pretty sure it was under Wane.'"


That's right with the last win there played in 2020, during COVID, with no fans.

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