FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > Ryan Hampshire.
263 posts in 19 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
RankPostsTeam
Moderator14323
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
27_1469093054.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27.jpg

Moderator


Not in the Cas 19 man squad for the 2nd week running. Might be better for his development if he can go to a Championship outfit who are going to get into the Middle 8s.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15781
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
16032_1698179828.jpg
"[color=#800080:2tf4iz4f]BOHICA[/color:2tf4iz4f]":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16032.jpg



Maybe he just isnt good enough for SL

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1850No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 20169 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: [Gareth] ""Maybe he just isnt good enough for SL'"


He probably isn't yet. Whether he will be or not remains to be seen. What he does need is regular rugby. I said at the start of this season when the Cas loan was announced that a year in the championship would have been better and I've not changed my mind.

RankPostsTeam
International Star7558
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Are Cas able to re-loan him out? He should be playing somewhere at least, be it in the Championship at London or something.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1227
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 20159 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2024Jan 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



The way some people were posting about Hampshire was frankly insane,he has talent but he'd reached almost mythical status before he'd barely played a game how on earth can anyone put up with that pressure?

I think the seaason long loan has been a complete waste oftime at Cas,whoever advised him got it utterly wrong he should have dropped down a division or even yet stayed at Wigan though i suspect he's had his chips there as long as Wane is in charge.

Clearly Powell has seen at first hand that perhaps he isnt the player he thought he was given his very limited run at Cas he has got some hard thinking to do in the coming months.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach3787No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2020Mar 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



There was even a post on here saying we shouldn't re sign Sam if it adversely affected Hampshire. As you say, insane.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2833No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2022Apr 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



No Hampshire again for Cas today. Despite having Gale and Roberts out, we have a prop (Millington) and a hooker (McShane) playing in the halves.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2972
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
icons15f0_files/3441-1022jacare-msnicons.jpg
:icons15f0_files/3441-1022jacare-msnicons.jpg



Hampshire has the one thing you can't coach and that is pace.
Today's game is over coached by virtually every team in the competition. Hampshire probably doesn't fit into today's predetermined moves and coaches don't think they can afford to have a "luxury" player.
These things go in cycles. When crowds continue to drop and interest continues to wither on the vine the game will revert back to a more open game as the "technical" coaches are ditched by clubs who need the lost income and support more than D, middles ( I still don't know what a middle is or is supposed to do) and full quotas of jacks of all trades but masters of non.
Hampshire seems to lack confidence and maybe he needs somewhere that will let him rule the roost rather than live of the scraps that Gale allows him Cas.
I'm an unashamed fan of Hampshire based on some his outstanding performances for the u19's and it would be sad if the game lost out on a potential precocious talent whilst talentless players abound in the competition because they tip their cap to whatever coaches tell them to do.
The game is riddled with half backs with no discernible talent but play to a plan derived on a whiteboard by coaches who over complicate issues and don't trust any of the players to play it as they see it.
Maybe Hampshire flattered to deceive but no one can convince me otherwise that today's game is wretched to watch and generally is devoid of any free thought for players.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2972
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
icons15f0_files/3441-1022jacare-msnicons.jpg
:icons15f0_files/3441-1022jacare-msnicons.jpg



Quote: nottinghamtiger "No Hampshire again for Cas today. Despite having Gale and Roberts out, we have a prop (Millington) and a hooker (McShane) playing in the halves.'"

Out of interest what do you think of that as a Cas fan?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2833No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2022Apr 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Itchy Arsenal "Out of interest what do you think of that as a Cas fan?'"


It seems odd we have paid his wages all year but still don't use him, either at full-back when Dorn is out or in the halves when both Roberts and Gale are out.
As much as I don't think Hampshire played well in the halves earlier in the season, we lose the ability to interchange Milner and McShane at hooker, meaning neither have as much impact. We also lose our best ball-playing forward in Millington who makes a good first of half back role but poses much more of a threat hitting the line as a forward.
Interesting to note that Tom Holmes is on our bench today, so even a kid who has been playing on duel-reg with Oxford seems to be above Hampshire in the pecking order.
It seems odd to me, but Powell sees Hampshire in training every day and clearly isn't impressed.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2833No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2022Apr 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Itchy Arsenal "Hampshire has the one thing you can't coach and that is pace.
Today's game is over coached by virtually every team in the competition. Hampshire probably doesn't fit into today's predetermined moves and coaches don't think they can afford to have a "luxury" player.
These things go in cycles. When crowds continue to drop and interest continues to wither on the vine the game will revert back to a more open game as the "technical" coaches are ditched by clubs who need the lost income and support more than D, middles ( I still don't know what a middle is or is supposed to do) and full quotas of jacks of all trades but masters of non.
Hampshire seems to lack confidence and maybe he needs somewhere that will let him rule the roost rather than live of the scraps that Gale allows him Cas.
I'm an unashamed fan of Hampshire based on some his outstanding performances for the u19's and it would be sad if the game lost out on a potential precocious talent whilst talentless players abound in the competition because they tip their cap to whatever coaches tell them to do.
The game is riddled with half backs with no discernible talent but play to a plan derived on a whiteboard by coaches who over complicate issues and don't trust any of the players to play it as they see it.
Maybe Hampshire flattered to deceive but no one can convince me otherwise that today's game is wretched to watch and generally is devoid of any free thought for players.'"


Hampshire's pace has not been noticeable so far, even when he played full-back and had the opportunity to bring the ball away on kick-returns.
Gale certainly did not restrict Hampshire. We play with split halves so Hampshire had the job of controlling the right of our attack.
However, I agree with your views of half backs, apart from Sandow perhaps!

RankPostsTeam
International Star7558
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Maybe Cas are resting him for the big game next week?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2833No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2022Apr 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Wigg'n "Maybe Cas are resting him for the big game next week?'"


I have been wondering if the loan may come to an end after the cup game.

RankPostsTeam
International Star4747
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201510 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
73327_1685730441.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_73327.jpg



Quote: Itchy Arsenal "
The game is riddled with half backs with no discernible talent but play to a plan derived on a whiteboard by coaches who over complicate issues and don't trust any of the players to play it as they see it.
Maybe Hampshire flattered to deceive but no one can convince me otherwise that today's game is wretched to watch and generally is devoid of any free thought for players.'"


For a golden example, see the suspicion with which Shaun Johnson is regarded down under.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2972
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
icons15f0_files/3441-1022jacare-msnicons.jpg
:icons15f0_files/3441-1022jacare-msnicons.jpg



Quote: nottinghamtiger "Hampshire's pace has not been noticeable so far, even when he played full-back and had the opportunity to bring the ball away on kick-returns.
Gale certainly did not restrict Hampshire. We play with split halves so Hampshire had the job of controlling the right of our attack.
However, I agree with your views of half backs, apart from Sandow perhaps!'"

The split halves is one of the reasons why halfbacks are so poor.
Can you imagine what Andy Gregory or Alex Murphy would have said if they were told to restrict themselves to one half of the pitch?

263 posts in 19 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
263 posts in 19 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


5.03173828125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
7m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62574
9m
Film game
Boss Hog
4040
23m
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Lower Crease
2
35m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
BP1
3310
41m
Proposed rule changes 2025
tad rhino
7
42m
Man of Steel
matt_wire
6
43m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2400
43m
Rumours thread
vastman
2420
Recent
Best Semi
Fourpointtry
1
Recent
2025 membership/renewals
BP1
39
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
35s
Man of Steel
matt_wire
6
35s
Best Semi
Fourpointtry
1
41s
Play-off semi-final
Khlav Kalash
17
49s
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Hull KR Away Play Off Semi
Douglas Blac
9
1m
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
1m
Travel to hull krdoes the club run coache
Barstool Pre
61
1m
Planning for next season
Jack Gaskell
118
1m
Shopping list for 2025
UllFC
5302
2m
Leigh it is
NickyKiss
62
3m
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Lower Crease
2
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Best Semi
Fourpointtry
1
TODAY
Ben Condon is a Leopard
Jack Gaskell
1
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Lower Crease
2
TODAY
Any decent RL reads for me hols
norbellini
1
TODAY
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
TODAY
Man of Steel
matt_wire
6
TODAY
Guest appearance
Kick and cha
1
TODAY
Squad for HKR
matt_wire
14
TODAY
Proposed rule changes 2025
tad rhino
7
TODAY
Fev H Play Off
Wigan Bull
13
TODAY
Whose going for a beer in Wigan Saturday
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Play-off semi-final
Khlav Kalash
17
TODAY
Coach of the Year
Kevin Turvey
10
TODAY
Greatest game ever at HJ
Fantastic Mr
10
TODAY
World Club Challenge
Barstool Pre
1
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Hull KR Away Play Off Semi
Douglas Blac
9
TODAY
2025 Squad
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
2024 Season Review
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
McNamara interview
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
French Elite 1 season 2024/2025 Thread
Jimmythecuck
3
TODAY
5024
Butcher
7
TODAY
2025 membership/renewals
BP1
39
TODAY
Hull FC ladies
Hessle Roade
1
TODAY
Kai
Cokey
8
TODAY
Travel to hull krdoes the club run coache
Barstool Pre
61
TODAY
Wakefield v Dons - Sunday 29 September 2024
Wanderer
4
TODAY
The play-offs
Ckt2487
11
TODAY
This years play off series
matt_wire
3
TODAY
Leigh it is
NickyKiss
62
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Play Off SF
Cokey
2
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
642
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
685
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1129
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1377
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1124
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1541
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1252
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1482
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1629
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
1895
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1593
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1659
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
1851
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1672
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
2115