He should have been fuming during the 80 minutes, he was poor today.

He wouldn't have played if Gildart had been available but he was far from our poorest performer.

I think he tries to do too many things on his own and it makes him look worse. Drives the ball in when others won't for example.

A half will never look good though behind a pack going backwards

Indeed. Also the reason why Powell failed to make any impact.

Kicking game was absolute garbage though. We should’ve thrown Smith on after 15/20 mins as the writing was on the wall at that point.

How many times did Hastings get caught on the 4th tackle, leaving us with little or no options on the 5th?

I know Hastings is meant to be leaving at the end of the year. But I can’t see him getting in any NRL sides anytime soon.

On a day like today your kicking game is vital. Gale kicked us to death and Tommy also kicked us to death. TL's kicking game was awful the first time he was here and he's only got worse. What Lam is thinking about having Tommy kicking who knows but it was a massive tactical mistake. He should have surprised us all and played Smith from the start.
Remember McGuire starting McIlorum in the 2010 GF, that worked out quite well.

After being completely outplayed today by an Agar coached team IL & KR should start looking for new head coach from 2021. Whether he goes British with someone like Watson or NRL I don't know but he has to start looking now.

Next season will come around before too long and fans need enthusing to turn up. With Lam in charge we'll end up as unenthusiastic like never before. We are now back to the semi final team we were when IL bought the club with Noble in charge. He needs a coach that will take us to finals on a regular basis not knowing before the season starts we won't get beyond the semi final stage.

We have a very good squad and a youth system better than any. We need a coach who can get players to improve game by game and season by season.

What is obvious is that if we are to reach finals then we have to improve massively and changes need to be made to achieve that.

I think every Wigan fan is stumped as to how Tommy can still be the man kicking us around the park. I’d have no less confidence in our kicking game if we handed it to Willie Isa. Tommy used all his kicking ability in one performance ten years ago at Old Trafford and he should’ve retired it on that night.

The time is here to put Harry Smith in next week and let him play the season out. Harry Smith was brought on today though and still didn’t get much kicking responsibility given to him. Unless we’re going to ask him to be the main man in that regard, we may as well bang an extra forward on the bench.

The question that I keep asking myself is “is it time for Tommy and Lockers to retire?”

Both best days are behind them and both were dire today. I know they can and still do a job for us on the field but if/when Lam goes its our chance as a club to restart and refresh on and off the field. Alongside Winder, Peet and Lam going; Tommy and Lockers could, and probably should, follow.

Lockers has been finished for a while in my view. Giving one outstanding performance a season is not good enough for a Wigan captain. Tommy does more week in week out, but is a shadow of what he was. I also think it's time for us to cut some of the journeymen. I know it's easier to say than do, but I fear we have too many players in our first team squad who haven't proved to be good enough. Even those not playing regularly have still got to be paid.

Totally agree with the Leeds were excellent part Brian but when the stat came up on the screen at half time that Wigan had 0% ball posession in the Leeds half you have to question the Wigan commitment and desire to compete . I never never thought I would think that of a Wigan side . I dont think I have ever seen a stat like that before .

Regards EW