Agreed.

This isn't a 'troll' attempt but a genuine question.

How does he fit in on the non-federation trained list? I can see how he fits in on the quota with other passports granting immunity but I'm struggling to fit him on the limit of 5 non-federation trained? I know Hansen was trained by Wigan but unsure on the following:

Richards, Carmont, Leuluai, Lima, Finch, Hoffman, Roberts & Cross.

As I said earlier, I know its not an issue on the quota limit, it's the non-fed trained I'm referring too. Would appreciate it if somebody could enlighten me, thanks.

Fed trained:
Leuluai (was at Quins for 3 years before he was 21)
Richards + Carmont (Here before the exception rule - pre 2008)

Non Fed trained:
Lima
Finch
Hoffman
Roberts
Cross

Thanks!

Edit: When did you sign Rangi Chase?!

You missed the memo? Pah, keep up!

Spill the beans you

I havent really seen a great deal of him but the fact that he couldnt get in the Leeds team and didnt play for 3 months makes me very wary. However we desperately need another prop and any experienced prop is a bonus for us and it is only for a few months if it doesnt work out.

This is the main thing. This won't turn out to be a crap signing, because it isn't really a signing. Cross is at Wigan as back-up, no more and no less.

There was something vaguely frenzied about the Warrington fan trying to tell us all that this was a poor piece of business. Clearly the lad was hurting.

Has nobody banned this tool yet?

With Cross, what you see is what you get. He's not a super star, but a typical hard grafting Aussie forward who will make the hard yards and provide a bit of go forward, but at the same time will giveaway daft penalties. His tackling is not as bad as some would have you believe, yes he misses some, but he usually puts in plenty of effort in that department when he's on the field, and if it gets a bit tasty, he's not slow in getting stuck in.

For me, this was a guy who's face didn't fit in with the current coaches at Headingley, and to let him go during the season is simply just another of the baffling decisions we've had at Headingley all year.

He's an excellent back up forward for you, and I think this decision could come back and bite us on the ass!

Assuming of course, that Wire don't hump you out of the cup!

i read somewhere that mcdermott told him early on he wasnt part of his plans.....prob why he played cr@p.

if he plays well for us its another indication that mcdermotts out of his depth at top level

very true! But let's not forget madge is awesome at this! He's taken some players who looked quite average for you lot and got them playing out of their skin! Fielden, coley, Roberts(pre injury), goulding, riddel. He's even given deacon a new lease of life.

I think madge will get cross ripping up trees!