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I used to like and respect Leeds but under McLennann their discipline is disgusting.'"
you might want to take a look at the penalty & card counts here before making an even bigger fool of yourself..
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010
Who was the Wigan player seen as clear as day on Sky spitting in a Leeds player's face last night in the tackle? Disgusting.
How many times did Wigan try to milk penalties by trapping Leeds' players arms & legs in tackles?
How many straight penalties did Wigan give away leading up to Coley being binned? Disgusting discipline.
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I used to like and respect Leeds but under McLennann their discipline is disgusting.'"
you might want to take a look at the penalty & card counts here before making an even bigger fool of yourself..
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010
Who was the Wigan player seen as clear as day on Sky spitting in a Leeds player's face last night in the tackle? Disgusting.
How many times did Wigan try to milk penalties by trapping Leeds' players arms & legs in tackles?
How many straight penalties did Wigan give away leading up to Coley being binned? Disgusting discipline.
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| Quote: DoubleAone "12 pages over over reactions and one eyed drivel.
Sorry prop joe, you have missed my point.
The point I was making is Leeds are dirty and are getting away with it, there is no stat on 'getting away with penalties'.
If we had 2 refs like the NRL this would clamp down on dirty/cheap shots.
IMO Leeds may aswell get Don Revie coaching them too aswell as McLennan, both use the same tactics.
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| Quote: BillyRhino "That smack has been long overdue for young Tomkins.
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Yes, Leeds players in jealous shock so lets knock someones head off antics.
How old are you??
Rugby League does not need scum like you as a fan.
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Serious Question - Who?
Didn't see it, not seen it mentioned by anyone else?
If a Wigan player did Spit in a players face in the context your implying, then you heard it here 1st, Whoever it was Ban him for 2 games!
And that is a 100% genuine answer!
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| OMG these Leeds "fans" are unreal.
Like I said earlier anyone defending Ablett is scum.
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| OK a view from 'the enemy'
I want a Leeds win over Wigan any day of the week but what Ablett did was disgusting and has no place on the field, it's dangerous reckless and potentially career ending. I'm all for a hard tackle (who er misses) and a bit of biff but an elbow to the head at full pace to a guy who has just taken a high ball is deserving of, at the very minimum a 3 game ban.
Defend your players Leeds fans by all means but for me Abletts shot is indefensible.
In hindsight Wigan winning was the fair result considering Ganson was doing his best to keep Leeds in the game
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| It would take a player to lose their head before they got a proper ban these days
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| Quote: Donna "OMG these Leeds "fans" are unreal.
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Oh it gets better. Check out their forum. Apparantly, getting owned by you lot at home means they dont fear you one bit.
Work that one out.
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| Quote: post "Sorry prop joe, you have missed my point.
The point I was making is Leeds are dirty and are getting away with it, there is no stat on 'getting away with penalties'.
If we had 2 refs like the NRL this would clamp down on dirty/cheap shots.
IMO Leeds may aswell get Don Revie coaching them too aswell as McLennan, both use the same tactics.'"
You do know that the Don passed away around 20ish years ago dont you?
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| Will he get banned for the CC, NO CHANCE !
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| Quote: post "Sorry prop joe, you have missed my point.
The point I was making is Leeds are dirty and are getting away with it, there is no stat on 'getting away with penalties'.
If we had 2 refs like the NRL this would clamp down on dirty/cheap shots.
IMO Leeds may aswell get Don Revie coaching them too aswell as McLennan, both use the same tactics.'"
You may want to be careful what you wish for. 2 refs a la NRL clamping down on dirty/cheap shots would no doubt impact heavily on your team as well as most if not every other team in SL.
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| My take it on it
Probably a Red - Probably a 2 game ban
Do I think it was "Really Bad"? - Not really
Reason? I Don't think he intentionally went to smash him with the Forearm/Elbow etc as his arms are next to his Body Not leading with them, I think he just went to shoulder charge him to dislodge ball and he got it wrong at 100mph.
Maguire tried the same thing on Fielden and got it right, Ablett got it wrong.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!
Can we stop the over reactions by both sides when it comes to instances like this!
Wigan fans accept that if one of our players did it we would be looking for every piece of reasoning to justify why it wasn't as Bad as everyones making out (See Andy Coley send off Thread) whilst Leeds fans please see that your doing just that!
On the other Hand Wigan fans don't make it out to be More than it was, If he'd have gone leading with the Elbow/Forearm the yes I would say it was a "Horrible" or "Disgusting" tackle. IMHO I think it was More reckless and over zealous.
It was certainly no "Cassidy" tackle that's for sure!
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Same goes for the Joel Tomkins thing the Other day against Wire, Player dove in slightly late (Bearing in mind there was an unusaual delay with Myler not grounding the Ball straight away) and Tomkins went in IMO in an uncontrolled manner.
Right decision, Yes, If he'd got 1 game, I wouldn't have argued.
It's a rough/tough game - I sometimes wonder what some people would make of the game of yesteryear 70's/80's, They'd have had a Firing squad out at the Disciplinary for some of the stuff that used to go on!
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| Quote: Hacked Off "You may want to be careful what you wish for. 2 refs a la NRL clamping down on dirty/cheap shots would no doubt impact heavily on your team as well as most if not every other team in SL.'"
Why? For the Cheap dirty shots or the Tackling technique?
I keep hearing all this and can't help but think that if they did change the tackling rules so we had to tackle like Fairies like a Game of Tick in the Back Garden, You Know What, We might just be the best at doing that as well! (And we wonder why the Aussies Laugh at us!)
What makes everyone think that just because were doing what were doing given the interpretations this year that if they interpretted it any other way we would be no good at it?
You know what, Be careful what you wish for, We may be even Better!
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| Quote: Jukesays "Why? For the Cheap dirty shots or the Tackling technique?
I keep hearing all this and can't help but think that if they did change the tackling rules so we had to tackle like Fairies like a Game of Tick in the Back Garden, You Know What, We might just be the best at doing that as well! (And we wonder why the Aussies Laugh at us!)
What makes everyone think that just because were doing what were doing given the interpretations this year that if they interpretted it any other way we would be no good at it?
You know what, Be careful what you wish for, We may be even Better!'"
I mean that every team tries it on with the cheap shots in every game and its naive or a blinkered view that fails to recognise this. I have no issue with your tackling technique (It is legal after all) or that of Hudds or even that of the Storm in this years WCC.
The poster I quoted was implying that if we had two refs to rule on cheap shots then Leeds would be knackered, i suggest it would impact on all teams equally, i said or implied nothing toward your tackling technique.
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