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| Quote: sergeant pepper "As a descendant of Catholic Irish immigrants, forced to leave their homes due to the potatoe famine, can I put a claim in for reparations too? The effects of that mass immigration into Liverpool still impacts the area today.'"
Be my guest.
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| Quote: Pieman "so your saying people cant forge an opinion a subject due to their race, thats interesting'"
I'm saying non white people do not need to be told what's racist and offensive to them.
Just as a gypsy doesn't need to be told by me a non gypsy what terminology they should and should not find offensive.
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| Quote: puroresu_boy "I'm saying non white people do not need to be told what's racist and offensive to them.
Just as a gypsy doesn't need to be told by me a non gypsy what terminology they should and should not find offensive.'"
so your saying no person needs to be told whats racist and offensive to them
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| Not sure if its been mentioned on this thread but would have thought Jake Connor may be in danger of missing the quarter final - looked a deliberate high shot to Hardaker plus use of the elbow on the floor a little earlier than that (again on Hardaker). Would prefer him to play as I like seeing the best players on the field but it might be a question mark.
There will definitely be no shortage of emotion in this game. Keeping cool might be the message from both coaches this week.
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| Quote: puroresu_boy "I'm saying non white people do not need to be told what's racist and offensive to them.
Just as a gypsy doesn't need to be told by me a non gypsy what terminology they should and should not find offensive.'"
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| Quote: Pieman "so your saying no person needs to be told whats racist and offensive to them'"
Well in what context?
Someone calling someone a 'a stupid Scottish c u n t may not see the Scottish person take huge offense however that does not mean calling someone' a stupid Polynesian v u n t is not extremely offensive to the Polynesian on the receiving end of such abuse.
The real question should be why would Clubb feel he has to even use Savelio's ethnicity in the first place? Why not just use the C word? The fact that he felt the need to mention the ethnicity of Savelio to me speaks volumes. I just don't understand how one thinks like that.
I've had plenty arguments with people but not once have I even thought to use someone's ethnicity, race, nationality, religion against them let alone say such a thing.
If someones a prick they are a prick. I'll tell them that. What there race or nationality maybe is irrelevant and has no bearing on them being a prick so why the heck use them as well?
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Again - it wasn't "Polynesian" that was the insult. Savelio[i is[/i Polynesian. Similarly if someone was called a "stupid Asian ****" it's not "Asian" that's the insult.
If Clubb called Savelio a "stupid Polynesian ****" he's saying that Savelio is stupid and a **** for [ibeing[/i Polynesian.'"
I get that but normally the Asian, black or whatever part of the insult is used because the person throwing the insult sees that as somehow inferior or beneath themselves. I've never seen or heard of that attitude with regard to Polynesians. To extend your analogy to call someone a white c**t wouldn't be seen as racist (rightly or wrongly). What I'm saying is I've never heard Polynesian used in this way either. I'm certainly not excusing it (you seem to be of the opinion that I am for some reason) I'm merely making the observation that it's a strange choice of phrase and not one that I have ever come across.
Could I ask if you have?
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| If anyone wants a example of why the sports of Football, Rugby League and Rugby Union are having a weekend boycott of social media, they only need to look at many of the comments about the alleged case of racist abuse in the Hull game.
To its credit, the rival website of Wigan Warriors Fans has closed down for the weekend in support of the boycott.
RL Fans should have done the same as social media is now out of control as proved by many of the comments we are now seeing these days.
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| Quote: Phuzzy "I get that but normally the Asian, black or whatever part of the insult is used because the person throwing the insult sees that as somehow inferior or beneath themselves. I've never seen or heard of that attitude with regard to Polynesians. To extend your analogy to call someone a white c**t wouldn't be seen as racist (rightly or wrongly). What I'm saying is I've never heard Polynesian used in this way either. I'm certainly not excusing it (you seem to be of the opinion that I am for some reason) I'm merely making the observation that it's a strange choice of phrase and not one that I have ever come across.
Could I ask if you have?'"
I've not heard it used in this context but there are hundreds, possibly thousands of ethnic groups you could say the same for. Using someone's ethnicity as part of an insult gives it a completely different context.
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| Quote: Ruddy Duck "If anyone wants a example of why the sports of Football, Rugby League and Rugby Union are having a weekend boycott of social media, they only need to look at many of the comments about the alleged case of racist abuse in the Hull game.
To its credit, the rival website of Wigan Warriors Fans has closed down for the weekend in support of the boycott.
RL Fans should have done the same as social media is now out of control as proved by many of the comments we are now seeing these days.'"
I don't think you have understood what that social media boycott is about.....at all. Maybe you could boycott social media for a while to make up for the rest of us not doing?
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| Rugby league fans discussing what is and isn’t racist. Jesus wept.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "I've not heard it used in this context but there are hundreds, possibly thousands of ethnic groups you could say the same for. Using someone's ethnicity as part of an insult gives it a completely different context.'"
I don't disagree but by that logic any ethnicity, including white, is racist when used in this context.
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| Quote: Pie_Eyter "Neither is Polynesia. Its a place. Well, more specifically a group of islands.'"
It's a bit ambiguous as to whether or not it is a race. It is a group of islands, correct, but it seem that now it's a term used to describe a race of people, i.e. Tongan, Samoan, Maori... etc.
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| Quote: Pemps "It's a bit ambiguous as to whether or not it is a race. It is a group of islands, correct, but it seem that now it's a term used to describe a race of people, i.e. Tongan, Samoan, Maori... etc.'"
Still doesn't make it racist though Pemps. I have a lot of Irish heritage and i get called a etc even though my Wigan accent is as broad as anybody's. I don't get offended by it. The same way as if somebody calls me a 'pie eating c**t' which happens practically every day. Savellio has implied that he has been racially abused when he actually hasn't. If there is any ban forthcoming then it should be for him for creating a media storm and descending a lynch mob this way. Everybody jumps on the race card at every opportunity when there hasn't even been any racism but when it reversed nobody bats an eyelid. I watched something a couple of weeks ago 'The great british sewing bee' (yes i am forced to) and an Asian woman on there said "just be confident, pretend you are a single straight white man" Brushed under the carpet after complaints. Anthony Joshua on a BLM rally "Hit them (White people) where it hurts, invest only in black run businesses" Loads of complaints, brushed under the carpet. Say something completely innocent against a non-white person and the media go into meltdown. The whole woke, snowflake, politically correct and easily offended folk in this country have turned it into an embarrassment.
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| Quote: MadDogg "Not sure if its been mentioned on this thread but would have thought Jake Connor may be in danger of missing the quarter final - looked a deliberate high shot to Hardaker plus use of the elbow on the floor a little earlier than that (again on Hardaker). Would prefer him to play as I like seeing the best players on the field but it might be a question mark.
There will definitely be no shortage of emotion in this game. Keeping cool might be the message from both coaches this week.'"
Havard as well for his late bump on a passer, the disciplinary have been quite keen on that the past few weeks
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