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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "Caddick Group 76%, Hetherington 19%, Rob Oates 5%.'"
So Leeds rugby club majority owned by caddick group borrows money to Caddick group. I appreciate that i am thick but that sounds a bit dodgy to me.
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| Quote: JonnyBroad "So Leeds rugby club majority owned by caddick group borrows money to Caddick group. I appreciate that i am thick but that sounds a bit dodgy to me.'"
It's perfectly normal in most businesses where one branch or subsidiary has surplus cash to sweep it up elsewhere either as inter company loan (as in this case) or dividend. It's obviously rare in sports clubs and is no longer the case at Leeds as the money was repaid when the club required it as a down payment for the redevelopment.
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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "It's perfectly normal in most businesses where one branch or subsidiary has surplus cash to sweep it up elsewhere either as inter company loan (as in this case) or dividend. It's obviously rare in sports clubs and is no longer the case at Leeds as the money was repaid when the club required it as a down payment for the redevelopment.'"
So if Paul Caddick walked away tomorrow Leeds would just carry on and survive with no issue at all?
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| Quote: JonnyBroad "So if Paul Caddick walked away tomorrow Leeds would just carry on and survive with no issue at all?'"
By the sounds of it they'd have more money as they wouldn't need to keep bailing him out
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| Quote: JonnyBroad "So if Paul Caddick walked away tomorrow Leeds would just carry on and survive with no issue at all?'"
If Caddick "walked away" it would mean he had sold the company which would make sense given his age.
Certainly Leeds wouldn't fall over like other SL clubs though.
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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "If Caddick "walked away" it would mean he had sold the company which would make sense given his age.
Certainly Leeds wouldn't fall over like other SL clubs though.'"
So its just the same as Ian Lenagan selling at some point then??
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| Quote: JonnyBroad "So its just the same as Ian Lenagan selling at some point then??'"
Not quite. Wigan would instantly collapse with all academy players signing for bigger clubs like Hunslet and Batley.
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| Quote: JonnyBroad "So its just the same as Ian Lenagan selling at some point then??'"
No, because Wigan RL Club Ltd owes Lenagan some £6m, has a limited asset base, loses money and is technically insolvent, none of which apply to Leeds.
So in the hypothetical "walk away" scenario, the club collapses. In a sale, the debts would need settling and that fact, and the state of the business generally, would make it not so attractive to buyers - although that isn't such a black/white commercial decision as it would be in most business transactions as the buyer is most likely to be a wealthy fan.
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| Quote: Ornery Optimist "https
Jeeez that reads like a “I acted on a half truth and should have contacted you first sorry not sorry” article. Done himself no favours with that one. He’s probably right in that IL will sell to Danson sooner or later, but let’s be honest that was obvious from the moment Danson bought 25%.
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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "Nope. Leeds own the Rugby League ground, Yorkshire own the cricket ground.
There is a joint management arrangement of course otherwise the whole thing would never work (e.g. the stadium hotel is a Leeds asset but based on Yorkshire property and most of the pre-redevelopment corporate facilities are in the pavilion which is owned by Leeds).
Paul Caddick.
True. Which is going to be never any time soon.'"
The Rugby Stadium part of the complex is indeed owned by Leeds Rhinos and the Cricket Ground part is indeed owned by Yorkshire County Cricket Club, but the land on which the whole of the complex is built is also owned by the Cricket Club.
As both clubs use each others facilities including the hotel and the joint North Stand on match days, that is why the complex is joint managed by both clubs.
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| Quote: Ruddy Duck "
The Rugby Stadium part of the complex is indeed owned by Leeds Rhinos and the Cricket Ground part is indeed owned by Yorkshire County Cricket Club, but the land on which the whole of the complex is built is also owned by the Cricket Club.'" Nope, you're totally wrong. Sorry.
Leeds owned the whole complex until they sold the cricket ground, including the land upon which it is built, to Yorkshire. That land ran up to a straight line running down the back of the old RL North Stand.
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