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Would you like to list the Republican parties list of donators?

You had the opportunity to explain what "Social Trends" you disagreed with, until now you haven't responded??? So until this point the ONLY issue I could tangibly make a link to was LGBTQ and in fact Egg chasing asked you specifically, but you didn't clarify.
As I have no idea what Wigan Warriors have posted on Facebook & Twitter I'll reserve the right to judge their stance when I know what they have and haven't said.

Either way your stance is quite clear, you don't want Wigan backing certain causes?
BLM
LGBTQ movement

Any others?
Because ALL messages/movements have some kind of organising/official group that sound behind them - Just want to know if you agree with other messages whilst not the political/organising group behind them.

As for making out I'm going on the attack like a rabid dog, or being a verbal bully in terms of the downbeaten brother in law jibe, or being a Marxist then I'm afraid you couldn't be further from the truth. Your attempt to paint me in a particular light may work with some, discredit the person, discredit the message, it certainly seems to be what some of the leaders of the "Right" movements have been doing over the last 4/5 years.
But most people will see it for what it is, Gaslighting, deflection technique

Anyway - You've made your point now and in a round about way answered my question
Your not going to give your money to a club that supports ANY "Social Trend" or "Political Movement"?

That's fine as not being a ST holder (Which doesn't matter but you have been asked and not answered so I can only assume your not) the club doesn't have any of your money - But if you were they would give it you back.
and/or your a walk up supporter so you won't need to put any money in
or
You don't go anyway so again that won't matter

And above in all instances your welcome to make your own decision.

I agree I was wrong on one thing
I thought you weren't putting your money in because of IFL/Rads etc.
Now I agree it's because of that and the fact their club back those political movements such as BLM/LBGTQ or any other days that "Could" be construed in that way such as NHS & Armed forces day

You keep saving for that Holiday to Florida? I would warn you against it but I know it's a Hoax & Fake News

I’ll try find it for you pal, there’s a list of donations going straight to the party also in the millions, I don’t disagree with the message as racism needs kicking into touch, don’t agree with their methods

As I've said before - If the money donated to BLM goes straight to the Democratic party then that would be wrong
If this company are taking their "Cut" - Then they pass on the remaining 96% or whatever then it is up to them what they do with their 4%

Some people may not want that company to do that, but it is their right
No different than the NRA making massive donations to the Republican party or Healthcare companies doing the same - So Donald continues his De-regulation etc.

The bit about "don’t agree with their methods" I would like to understand more, as I have seen a lot of allegations without seeing much evidence (BLMUK is a totally different situation)
However for example
"Defund the Police" is a completely different set-up/Message in USA
I have watched dozens of programs on the American Law enforcement set up over the last 4/5 years - And A LOT of those programs/documentaries etc. are critical of a lot of the way that it is set up - Not going to Bore everyone anymore, but basically the "Defund the Police Message" is more about stopping the increase in police budget and asking them to deal with EVERY issue out there from Marital/Drug/Social/Mental health issues etc. and put more funds into the specialist departments that deal with those issues.
It's a Bat S*** Crazy country - I don't like the way our leadership with Brexit etc. are mimicking their methods & Messages which are based on Gaslighting/Blame culture & dismissing EVERY message that doesn't fit their stance as "Fake News" or a Hoax.

Anyway

Good on the club for investing in players whilst in the midst of such a difficult situation
If my & my families £300/400 for the remainder of my ST's price for 2020 has been used or in some way made the clubs decision to reinvest in John Bateman and help retain younger players coming through easier then I'm absolutely fine with that.

wish I was a season ticket holder this year so I could have said the same but every home game fell on my weekend on joined the lotto and bought from the shop as most have my family has, would love to donate towards the fundraiser if it happens also

The American BLM Movement has taken back race relations and the multi-cultural society in our country back years and created more racial tension between White and Black/Asian people.

You only have to look at the increased number of racist comments from both sides on the social media compared to the number there was before anyone in our country had heard of the movement in America.

All lives matter, irrespective of colour, race or religion.

***Mods***
I'm ok if you want to Lock this thread etc.
Pretty sure most posters will be ok if you lock this thread
I appreciate I could just not respond, but I dont feel it is appropriate to sit back and say nothing, if its locked I cant, and someone can always start another leneghan letter thread if required.

In your opinion
I guess those "Damn Blacks" (in reference to a prominent statement of the last week ago) would be better just staying quiet eh?
I mean, it's only all got out of hand since they started making a fuss about it?

Racist comments from both sides, ok, everyone would just be better if those blacks/asians kept quiet and stopped upsetting those damn racist whites so they didnt have to tweet/reply back their racist replies?

All Lives Matter, including Black, Asian, gay, straight, etc. Etc.

So next time its mothers day, we can argue about how Fathers day matters
Then 3 months later when its fathers day we can argue about Mothers day matters.

No celebrating the NHS
I mean Private Healthcare workers lives matter to?

Let's stop "Help the aged" as I'm sure Children and middle age people need helping as well?
Whilst were at it let's not "Save the children" because ???

No "Prostate Cancer" badges, God am I sick of all those ex footballers and pundits on TV every week, shoving it down my throat about bloody prostate cancer.
My relatives died of bladder cancer, and other cancers, and what do you get from Sky footballers and pundits, NOTHING!
BLOODY SKY, THE CANCER RACISTS (I dont know what people are called who like one kind of cancer and not others?).
My uncle has prostate cancer though, so if anything happens there I'll let you know though.
I may change my opinion on that "When it affects me".

I could go on but I reckon most people will get it
And whilst I agree most people will want to get on with rugby, talk about rugby etc., I do believe sport, music has a place to play in leading and educating in society, and after the last few months God have they got their work cut out.

Anyway, as I say please feel free to lock?
I think were done here????

Wow.

Maybe Rosa Parks should have agreed to stand in her section on the bus as that caused a fair bit of fuss and anger at the time.

What about Ruby Bridges? Maybe she should have just stayed at home rather than go to get an education as that seemed to create a whole heap of trouble.

Let’s just ignore and pretend social injustices are not a thing. That way nobody will highlight them, nobody will address them and there will be no debate.

Seems like a good idea.

Nothing bad ever happened by not challenging social injustice or highlighting it......

And what about Rugby Union.
Do you think that a black man would have even played for South Africa, never mind captained them and been presented with the World Cup trophy by a black president if other teams and countries in different sports, athletics, cricket football etc hadn't stood up against apartheid?

If you ever get the chance to speak to Billy Boston ask him of his disappointment with the management of the 1954 GB touring side to Australia and New Zealand. They were "invited" to play exhibition games in South Africa on the way back but were told that Boston couldn't stay in the same hotel as the rest of the team.

Billy came declining the "invite" but says the players and management should have backed him and ALL come home.