I really don't want to agree with you, but i'm finding it hard not to. F**king Pinnochio should have been sacked after the WC.

Yer, another Wiganer.................

Had the French a decent coach I'd be worried about tonight - but for choosing Goulding they deserve everything the Aussies and Kiwis will do to them.

Aye Rogues....my apologies but my fingers were getting tired, typing the amount of failings it takes to have a good season according to Tony Smith!

Am i on my own in wanting us to struggle abit tonight especially in attack in the hope that Smith will actually pick the correct side next week?

I'll be gutted if we put 60 points on them.

I'm hoping for a PNG style victory.

As I mention on the France v England thread, looking at the England team compared to the Leeds team that played Catalan, I think we could struggle. It was then highlighted to me that Goulding is their coach so I slept well last night

I pretty much agree with that. The points I would possibly add though are:

1) TS said he would pick on form. He quite obviously had no intention of doing so.

2) The way he has almost 'sacrificed' Sam to the press in order to 'talk up' Myler is a disgrace from a National coach. Whichever way you look at this it's a terrible dereliction of duty on his part and an abuse of his position as England coach.

3) Despite what you say about Myler being the more 'natural no.7' (which is a justifiable stance), at this time Sam is in better form, TS plays split halves so that becomes almost irrelevant and, most importantly, in the only game we have seen from the pair, Tomkins comprehensively outplayed Myler from both positions! Incidently (and just as an added extra if you like!), he also comprehensively outplayed Myler during the regular season in general and in particular when we played Salford.

And the side doesn't need an out and out organising scrum half because not only does he split the halfs but he's also selected Sinfield at loose forward who is basically a 3rd halfback in the side with the sole intention of organising it with his passing and kicking game.

Ah always good to hear.

Very good point NK.

No it should not rule Sam out because the reason Smith has given for putting Myler in to the team is because of his organisations skills, but you watch the game and honestly tell me Myler directed us round the park. it will be McGuire and Sinny.

whats up upset we got smith and you didnt,

We will have to wait and see, but to say Myler is only in due to playing for us is wrong give him a chance I say, its not like with Sam playing we are a shoe in to win it, far too much jumping the gun and wire/wigan points scoring going on.

IMO I thought it would be Sam but then again this is only the first game its not the semi or final and clearly this is weakest team we will come up against.

I understand but this is the last game before the biggest game of the year, the biggest game some of these players will ever play. We should be playing the strongest team hitting off all the combos. At least you think it should be Sam but accept its Myler and not be blind like 99% of the fans on your board and just argue Myler should be in.