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| Quote: tedglen "On the virus issue, I seem to remember in the dim-and-distant that if a club couldn't field a team because of illness (certified by doctors 'notes'), as opposed to 'injury' then that club could seek a postponement.
Was that indeed the case, and if it was, is it still the case today?
If so, and the virus was as bad as Rads says it was, why was the game played?'"
The same thought crossed my mind and the rules do state clubs have to exercise a duty of care so why we did not seek postponement I am note sure.
As to 10 inured players has known since he did it MM was out for the season but elected to go with Powell for 80 minutes, Sam T wasn't due back anyway (and originally the club decided to go with Lewis T) and even though we have run out of half backs Wane prefers to play Gregson than recall Hampshire.
When you have long term injuries while they are obviously not available you know this and so should try and do something about it otherwise if more injuries arise as they have you are playing kids.
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| The club knew on Thursday the extent of the virus. Any Medic would know how debilitating such illnesses can be. Plenty of time to seek a postponement without upsetting too many fans. As DaveO correctly states, the Club has to exercise a duty of care. Tired, unfit players are more prone to picking up injury on top of their illness, so why did the club go ahead and play?
Worry about the business end at the business end. Better to do that than throw 2 points away, and more importantly, to put the welfare of the players at risk.
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| Quote: DaveO "The same thought crossed my mind and the rules do state clubs have to exercise a duty of care so why we did not seek postponement I am note sure.
As to 10 inured players has known since he did it MM was out for the season but elected to go with Powell for 80 minutes, Sam T wasn't due back anyway (and originally the club decided to go with Lewis T) and even though we have run out of half backs Wane prefers to play Gregson than recall Hampshire.
When you have long term injuries while they are obviously not available you know this and so should try and do something about it otherwise if more injuries arise as they have you are playing kids.'"
When you consider that we had to request dispensation from the RFL to play Bretherton and Wells due to it taking us over the cap limit do you not think it's more an issue of the club not being able to recall Hampshire as it would definitely take us over the cap?
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| I think we just have to forget about it and move on. As much as missing so many players is an issue the bigger one for us was the players on the pitch weren't fit to play. With a virus running through the squad like others I wondered why we didn't ask for a postponement. Maybe it was thought it would be better to write off the game rather than end up with a fixture congestion later in the season possibly playing a midweek game if either us or Wakefield were still in the cup.
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| Quote: Trainman "I think we just have to forget about it and move on. As much as missing so many players is an issue the bigger one for us was the players on the pitch weren't fit to play. With a virus running through the squad like others I wondered why we didn't ask for a postponement. Maybe it was thought it would be better to write off the game rather than end up with a fixture congestion later in the season possibly playing a midweek game if either us or Wakefield were still in the cup.'"
What happened to every minute counts?
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| Quote: Itchy Arsenal "What happened to every minute counts?'"
That was last year
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| Quote: Wigan Peer "Seems that a virus has laid most of the squad low....
Most definitely worth a listen especially for those giving the team some stick after yesterday. I think i might close my eyes and open them mid May.
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| Quote: tedglen "On the virus issue, I seem to remember in the dim-and-distant that if a club couldn't field a team because of illness (certified by doctors 'notes'), as opposed to 'injury' then that club could seek a postponement.
Was that indeed the case, and if it was, is it still the case today?
If so, and the virus was as bad as Rads says it was, why was the game playedquote]?[/
Interesting question that Ted.
On the Wakefield fans forum posters are already asking the question, if Wigan players played still carrying the tail end of a virus what happens if half of the Wakefield team pick up the bug if the virus was still live.
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| Quote: Trainman "Most definitely worth a listen especially for those giving the team some stick after yesterday. I think i might close my eyes and open them mid May.'"
Everyone should've waited for half season tickets.
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| What I'd like to see is our best players on the park, playing a better brand of rugby than we have seen for the last 12 month. It's going to need more than players back to really begin to entertain, I'm not happy with just winning, I want to be entertained. I don't want our better players taking it in turns to win games, I want to see a team that play with flair and fluidity. Is Wane the man to get us firing in attack? I don't think so he now seems limited. Is he a man to get them fired up and defensively solid (most of the time)? Probably yes. We need a coach that can do both.
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| Quote: stillinthepast "
I think that's a very fair question for the Wakefield fans to be asking.
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| All that information and the virus wasn't given an actual name or the symptoms of the said virus and it's effects. The interviewer only used flu as an example of a virus which Rads went along with. He didn't confirm or deny it was flu.
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| Quote: theblondebomber "All that information and the virus wasn't given an actual name or the symptoms of the said virus and it's effects. The interviewer only used flu as an example of a virus which Rads went along with. He didn't confirm or deny it was flu.'"
As a parent of primary school kids I've lost count the number of times myself or my wife have taken the kids to the doctors to be told they have a virus. The docs never know which one without extensive unnecessary testing. It's a virus, they knock you for six and after 3 to 5 days you get over them. It wasn't flu, anyone who has had flu will confirm you can't even get out of bed never mind get yourself on a rugby pitch.
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| Quote: Trainman "As a parent of primary school kids I've lost count the number of times myself or my wife have taken the kids to the doctors to be told they have a virus. The docs never know which one without extensive unnecessary testing. It's a virus, they knock you for six and after 3 to 5 days you get over them. It wasn't flu, anyone who has had flu will confirm you can't even get out of bed never mind get yourself on a rugby pitch.'"
I understand that completely having children myself and visiting NHS doctors. However, I doubt Wigan will be using NHS care and will have private medical insurance which would probs cover illness. If so many had the virus would not be irresponsible of Wigan to not at least find out the name of the virus? If they had to inform the RFL I doubt they would just accept the word virus as a reason? Wouldn't they require medical evidence so they could exercise dispensation for the salary cap? If not then that's pretty serious as every club will start the play the virus card just to increase the playing roster.
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| Quote: Trainman "As a parent of primary school kids I've lost count the number of times myself or my wife have taken the kids to the doctors to be told they have a virus. The docs never know which one without extensive unnecessary testing. It's a virus, they knock you for six and after 3 to 5 days you get over them. It wasn't flu, anyone who has had flu will confirm you can't even get out of bed never mind get yourself on a rugby pitch.'"
I'll confirm that, had it twice, it's horrible.... First time i got it, i ate a slice and a half of toast in a week... Hope i never get it again.
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