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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "It's an internet forum mate, what do you expect? If I have been abusive or libellous to you then report me to the mods, otherwise suck it up. I get plenty of stick on here, especially over my support of Shaun Wane, and recently Matty Smith. I live with it.

You're wrong about Tierney. So he dropped one the other night. It's just about the first one he has dropped all season. His catching is a lot better than Sarges, so to say that you are worried about him under the high ball is about as sensible as saying you're worried about Lockers because he missed a tackle the other night. All players make mistakes but bagging them for one mistake, especially a younger player is wrong. And I'll continue to point that out if I see it.

No need to ask me before you post, just don't expect a free ride when you are criticising players. Or are you above a bit of criticism yourself?'"

If you think Tierney is good under a high ball you are deluded and in dire need of an eye test. I don't mind anyone having a different opinion on anything it makes the world go around.
What are the attributes that Tierney has that you think make him a good fullback? Im here to be persuaded and genuinely interested in your views. Personally I see very little. You say he has only dropped one al season which may be true but would surprise me if true.
Don't think I particularly criticised the lad but saying I don't think he is a fullback but in your perfect world it is probably tantamount to crucifying him.
By the way I couldn't give a fishes tit if you have had stick over SW or MS and don't see what that has got to do with the price of coal.

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This is the first game i have not felt comfortable about... I expect those pesky Wires to raise their game and squeak a win...

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Gutted to miss it. Bath are playing Saracens at the same time, so no chance of getting it on the TV down the nearby pub.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Whatever injuries you do have in sure it doesn't account for 7 of your first 17 does it? In fact I'm 100% confident it's nowhere near that. If your 19 are all fit you've got Dodds and Dwyer missing who'd get in your 17 (I've possibly missed somebody) Dwyer is covered by the best hooker in superleague on his day and you have good depth at prop.

We're missing our 1,3,6,8 and 9 plus Bateman and Crosby. By my reckoning that would be something like Russell, Atkins, Gidley, Hill, Dwyer, Currie and Dodds for you. How do you reckon you'd get on minus that lot?'"


Russell was injured and may not play, although the rumour is that he will, but Westerman won't. As you said Dwyer is out as is Dodds so that's possibly a straight 3 possibly 4 from your 7. Add to that long term injuries to B Evans, Laithwaite, Harrison and Grix (whatever his current status is?) all regular starters recently and of course Wheeler icon_cool.gif

I know that this still won't add up in your mind to an even loss of personnel.

We can't play a team of forwards where we are suffering most, but, it's all about squad depth. We are lucky last year that our young lads like Philbin and Wilde stepped up and Cox has been a revelation at interchange Prop meaning that we might not appear as badly affected as we could have been based on 1-17

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Looking at the squads, Wire should win the game (although the game is not played on paper!). I do have a feeling Wane will have them pumped up for this and it will be a close game with possibly a Wigan win. I can't believe Wire are still +2 with some of the bookies.

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Quote: Itchy Arsenal "If you think Tierney is good under a high ball you are deluded and in dire need of an eye test. I don't mind anyone having a different opinion on anything it makes the world go around.
What are the attributes that Tierney has that you think make him a good fullback? Im here to be persuaded and genuinely interested in your views. Personally I see very little. You say he has only dropped one al season which may be true but would surprise me if true.
Don't think I particularly criticised the lad but saying I don't think he is a fullback but in your perfect world it is probably tantamount to crucifying him.
By the way I couldn't give a fishes tit if you have had stick over SW or MS and don't see what that has got to do with the price of coal.'"

Just got back from 'Specsavers' icon_biggrin.gif

LT looked very shaky in the U19s under the high ball and I was surprised when SW publicly backed him before the season started. He has clearly worked hard because he has surprised a lot of us with his displays so far this season. His positioning is sound as is his tackling. He has good pace but doesn't yet offer much in the attacking line. And his catching has improved no end. All in all he's done pretty well so far and justified the coaches faith in him.

I suppose if I'm deluded then Shaun Wane must be too? I'll take his judgement over yours any day.

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Just got back from 'Specsavers'
Not convinced I'm afraid so let's agree to disagree.
Jesus of Nazareth made mistakes in his short 33 years so I am quite sure that SW has and will make them along the line.
Then again don't we all

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Surely with the number of players missing it's time to ditch the two games at Easter. Tomorrow should be one of the games of the season but due to fatigue and injuries I suspect intensity levels will be right down.

Word is Gelling gone for three months and Sam T another 2 months out injured.

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Quote: NickyKiss "
Have we got enough injuries to call it a Leeds/Saints style injury crisis yet? And will sky mention that we're missing Sam Tomkins, Williams, Gelling, Bateman, McIlorum and Crosby

It's a real shame that what should have been a great game could be let down a little by one side being massively under strength.'"


Just so you know....We are under strength as well.
Ben Harrison, Toby King, James Laithwatie, Mitch Dodds, Ryan Bailey, Brad Dywer, Gary Wheeler and Ben Evans are all unavailable. But us Wires just get on with it.

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Quote: Fatbelly "Just so you know....We are under strength as well.
Ben Harrison, Toby King, James Laithwatie, Mitch Dodds, Ryan Bailey, Brad Dywer, Gary Wheeler and Ben Evans are all unavailable. But us Wires just get on with it.'"


What a sensational array of talent.

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Quote: MadDogg "What a sensational array of talent.'"


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Quote: Fatbelly "Just so you know....We are under strength as well.
Ben Harrison, Toby King, James Laithwatie, Mitch Dodds, Ryan Bailey, Brad Dywer, Gary Wheeler and Ben Evans are all unavailable. But us Wires just get on with it.'"


So as I say 2 (Dwyer and Dodds) of your first choice 17 then compared to our 7 (with some of our 7 being your Gidleys, Sandows, Hills etc).

If we're going to list injuries to anybody in the club we've got Jake Shorrocks and the handy man from the training ground missing as well.

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Quote: NickyKiss "So as I say 2 (Dwyer and Dodds) of your first choice 17 then compared to our 7 (with some of our 7 being your Gidleys, Sandows, Hills etc).

If we're going to list injuries to anybody in the club we've got Jake Shorrocks and the handy man from the training ground missing as well.'"


Prefacing your post with " So as I say" doesn't make you correct.

To recap, added to Dwyer and Dodds, Russell may or may not play, Westerman is apparently out and despite the tongue in cheek nature of naming Wheeler (I'd probably swap him for Jake Shorrocks) and to some extent Toby King who is a real prospect rather than an established player, a possible bench of Ratchford, G King, Cox and Philbin tells a story and they wouldn't probably all be part of our first choice 17.

I understand that you won't be convinced as our missing talent is worthless whilst yours are all world beaters but I think that you are being simplistic

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Quote: MadDogg "What a sensational array of talent.'"

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Quote: Fatbelly "Just so you know....We are under strength as well.
Ben Harrison, Toby King, James Laithwatie, Mitch Dodds, Ryan Bailey, Brad Dywer, Gary Wheeler and Ben Evans are all unavailable. But us Wires just get on with it.'"


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