You are right about the injuries. It also affected Royce Simmonds who got sacked after losing 4 games all without his best player (was that fair?). But again complaining about injuries is something Wane never does. Last season when, as you rightly say, you missed 10 players at one time, Wigan were leading the league after ten games having played the whole time with vitually a second choice pack. Wane sees it as an opportunity to play the youngsters and is always positive about ANY given situation. (As you can tell I'm a fan of SW!!!)

Haha, yeah I did get that impression!

The Saints pack will be good this year and Walsh will do the business.
Trouble is for Saints as I see it is that Turner is a centre and not a stand off. Whether they already have a 6 lined up for next year or not I don't know but to me Turner won't do it at 6 stand off. Walsh needs a better half back partner.
The two centres we saw in Percival and Jones are young and not ready to go and do a full season in one position in the first team. Swift is a good finisher and Makinson is a good player. I just wonder where the tinker man will swap his squad around from and too.

Saints need to stop bleating on about this and stop being spineless.

Nathan Brown needs to stop these outbursts and painting them in a bad light, man up Brown and get on with it, the game is being diluted enough with out your contribution.

And it's also been noted over on the Saints forum that their moderators and still acting like a bunch of little power mad school girls. Pathetic.

Thank you to everyone who has messaged me over the last few days on text and twitter. I am totally fine, I've been for a scan and have a fractured orbital which will heal over time. Who cares? It has until February to get better!!


Blake greens attitude after the grand final, chalk and cheese.

Quote: Aboveusonlypie "My big question is - do you have the right coach? I think to draw a comaprison with Wane. When do you hear him complain about foul play? Never, because it sends the wrong messages to the team. '" Never you say? www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-league/18538370

Quote: Aboveusonlypie "My big question is - do you have the right coach? I think to draw a comaprison with Wane. When do you hear him complain about foul play? Never, because it sends the wrong messages to the team. '" Never you say? www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-league/18538370

I am genuinely at a loss to see how a player's comment after the last game of the season is in any way relevant to a coach's comment after a pre-season friendly.

because the coach and player didn't come out crying and that was a lot more thuggish than a miss timed tackle.

Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Did you notice the date? SW learned many lessons in his first season as head coach. Try looking for something from last season because I believe that he learned such moaning was counter productive and poor management. Brown has been a head coach for a helluva lot longer and yet he keeps making the same mistakes.'" 2013: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/22455852 And www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... atty-smith

Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Did you notice the date? SW learned many lessons in his first season as head coach. Try looking for something from last season because I believe that he learned such moaning was counter productive and poor management. Brown has been a head coach for a helluva lot longer and yet he keeps making the same mistakes.'" 2013: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/22455852 And www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... atty-smith

Haha. To be fair, if he believes that his halfbacks have been unfairly targeted then he has every right to moan. There's too much of it that goes on for me.

I agree he does. But that should be done through the proper channels and not via the press.

All coaches of all sports whinge and moan about many things. The main reason for it is an attempt to influence referees in future games. If a ref has a seed planted for example that Tomkins was being unfairly targeted, subconsciously the ref is more likely to be looking for it and therefore give the 50-50 decisions in his teams favour.

Secondly it influences fans as can be clearly seen from the Walsh 'incident' in the friendly. Didn't take a lot to whip up those incapable of formulating their own opinion into a frenzy over something which didn't even happen.