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| Thank the lord it'll be tough. These games where were 20 points up after 20 mins and then switch off and play at 20% to get to 40 odd are doing us no favours in the build up to the play offs.
This one could go either way. They're a fine side and so are we. They have a good record against us and are more settled so I'd make them favourites but only just.
Looking forward to it.
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| Great Warrington performance but.....(and i know i said this about Hull).
Saints are very poor.
No half-backs, average pack with the exception of TP and Roby.
oh and what is Wellens doing on the field?
Brown has a big job next season.
Thought Morley was immense for Warrington!
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| Quote: dany1979 "Great Warrington performance but.....(and i know i said this about Hull).
Saints are very poor.
No half-backs, average pack with the exception of TP and Roby.
oh and what is Wellens doing on the field?
Brown has a big job next season.
Thought Morley was immense for Warrington!'"
The fact they are third shows how poor this league is
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| Quote: Chester Pie Man "I think Josh and Gelling or Thornley and Sam are going to be in for a busy night under the high ball !'" Nah wire knew that Meli is one of the worst in sl under a bomb so used it well
If i'm being honest i though wire should have won by another 20 saints where gash last night if we played them 40-50 would have been put on them
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| Quote: Wollyhood "On paper you should beat us? Why? We could use the fact that we've knobbed Widnes with ease whilst playing reserve players whilst they beat you? I wouldn't even suggest that you had a better team on paper. Possibly only Tomkins, Charnley, Mossop, TL , O'loughlin and Hock getting in our 17.
The sensible thing to do would be to base it on the last three league meetings that have been won with ease by Wire. Although I don't think this will be the case saturday, an extra three days rest is sure to play a part for Wigan.'"
So you wouldn't have Mickey Mc in over Higham the guy we got rid of and kept him?
Or Finch over briers and/or Myler?
We also played a lot of reserves against Widnes wane messed up there.
This seems to be the problem with Wire fans. They can never see another team playing reserves it's only an excuse when they do it. Even though your team wasn't really reserves anyway all those players have played a few times in the first team Wigan gave about 4 debuts.
And if you'd read my post it was based solely on how we have beaten saints three times this season by more convincing score lines.
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| Quote: hula89 "So you wouldn't have Mickey Mc in over Higham the guy we got rid of and kept him?
Or Finch over briers and/or Myler?
We also played a lot of reserves against Widnes wane messed up there.
This seems to be the problem with Wire fans. They can never see another team playing reserves it's only an excuse when they do it.
And if you'd read my post it was based solely on how we have beaten saints three times this season by more convincing score lines.'"
or we could use the fact Salford 'knobbed wire with ease', as our little cheshire friend so eloquently put... as did Catalans? stupid argument
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| I think you may see a whole different Warrington side, come Saturdy afternoon. The short turnaround will have a pretty large bearing on the squad selection/rotation.
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| Would it not be sensible for Tony Smith to start having a settled 17 from now till the end of the season? I would've thought that team that started last night will be the one Wigan face on Saturday.
Briers and Smith made it sound as if you've prepared for a two game turnaround, even though in all honesty, the turnaround isn't bad at all. It's a normal 5 days.
Should be a close one, Wigan certainly owe Wire one in the league!
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| Last night was a typical Wire performance, good kicking, strong forwards and pressure defence, but it didn't scare me for Saturday at all. We should have destroyed them at home earlier in the season but our own mistakes cost us big time. If we play to the best of our ability and so do Wire then we will win because we are better.
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| Quote: Conman "Would it not be sensible for Tony Smith to start having a settled 17 from now till the end of the season? I would've thought that team that started last night will be the one Wigan face on Saturday.
Briers and Smith made it sound as if you've prepared for a two game turnaround, even though in all honesty, the turnaround isn't bad at all. It's a normal 5 days.
Should be a close one, Wigan certainly owe Wire one in the league!'"
A 5 day turnaround is like a 2 day turnaround for players who are over 30.
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| Quote: Conman "Would it not be sensible for Tony Smith to start having a settled 17 from now till the end of the season? I would've thought that team that started last night will be the one Wigan face on Saturday.
Briers and Smith made it sound as if you've prepared for a two game turnaround, even though in all honesty, the turnaround isn't bad at all. It's a normal 5 days.
Should be a close one, Wigan certainly owe Wire one in the league!'"
Five days turnaround isn't normal to me, as much as eight days isn't.
I would expect Carvell to come back on Saturday.
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Not wanting to sound churlish, but, the game could have been a lot more physical than it was. Which is a bit of a saving grace.
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| Quote: TrueBlueWarrior "Last night was a typical Wire performance, good kicking, strong forwards and pressure defence, but it didn't scare me for Saturday at all. We should have destroyed them at home earlier in the season but our own mistakes cost us big time. If we play to the best of our ability and so do Wire then we will win because we are better.'"
I believe we are better if we have our 1st choice 17 available. Think, however, we might be a bit light in the prop department on Saturday - wouldn't be if we had a fully fit and fired up Prescott together with Lima, Mossop and Eric. All back row forwards need to assert themselves as well - Faz and Tuson as well as Hansen, Hock and SOL.
If we had a fully fit Tommy and Pat as well, I'd be even more confident - we may have lost the last few league games, but we won the one crucial game last year ( CC Quarter final).
Warrington may find it difficult to back up so soon after last night's hard game - wouldn't be the first time a team struggles to maintain performance playing 2 tough games in 5 days.
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| Wigan's weakness is also their strength, your rigid and well disciplined patterns.
I'm not sure who said it on boots and all that you know what Wigan are going to do but it's stopping it.
Individually man for man i think Wire have the better team but we play off the cuff which sometimes means high errors and we get punished for it.
This game is toss of the coin stuff
if we played 100 times in a season i reckon it would be 50-50, maybe the occasional draw.
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| Quote: Horatio Yed "Wigan's weakness is also their strength, your rigid and well disciplined patterns.
I'm not sure who said it on boots and all that you know what Wigan are going to do but it's stopping it.
Individually man for man i think Wire have the better team but we play off the cuff which sometimes means high errors and we get punished for it.
This game is toss of the coin stuff
if we played 100 times in a season i reckon it would be 50-50, maybe the occasional draw.'"
With both sides at full strength, I'd agree, and I hope both sides make the GF this year. My main worry for Saturday is our goalkicking, I really think it will be that close for it to make the difference.
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| I think we should be targeting this game as the game to kick start our run to old trafford as I haven't been impressed with our performances at all since the exiles break, we seem to be making a few basic errors and don't seem as fluid as we have done in attack, hopefully this all changes come tea time on Saturday.
Warrington didn't raise any eyebrows last night, in fact it suggested to me that Wigan and Warrington are miles ahead of the rest, Saints where really poor, there attack is so one dimentional and I don't think they can handle a quick team in both attack and defence. Lomax is extremely overrated and doesn't seem able to grasp a game like the top half backs can.
The difference with Wigan now and the last few times we have played Warrington is that we now have a half back who has a kicking game! We have played right into warrington's hands the last few times we have played them with errors and stupid penalties. I hope we go there and play with flare and move their forwards around the park.
Unfortunately though, this game as others have said is just a 'warm up' for the playoffs and 1st means no more than 2nd come play off time.
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