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Quote: LewCharnock "And nice of them to put a picture of Joel Tomkins hugging Tim Smith too .
Mine shows hock hugging ainscough

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[color=#000000:1qsyq8gi]Wigan Warriors 2010:[/color:1qsyq8gi] [color=red:1qsyq8gi]Super League Champions League Leaders Under 20's Champions Club of The Year Floodlit 9's Winners Pat Richards: Man Of Steel Sam Tomkins: Young Player of the Year Michael Maguire: Coach of the Year[/color:1qsyq8gi] [quote="Wire_91":1qsyq8gi]its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are[/quote:1qsyq8gi]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_26076.jpg



Quote: Tricky Dicky "Mine shows hock hugging ainscough'"

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Quote: Mother Feka "Nice of them to put a picture of Gareth Ellis at the top
And Joel Tomkins lower down claiming it to be Hock.

Can't fault the lad for going to the papers to get a bit of money lets face it his employment prospects are not good for the next 2 years.

I was actually quite pleased by the honesty of the interview and although i am sure his words have been edited the message behind them must have come from Hock, and it does seem he is genuinely remorseful and ashamed of his actions.

If he continues with this attitude and has the desire to prove himself again this 2 year ban may well be one of the best things to happen to his career from a performance point of view.

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I suspect the club will stand by him, I feel more sorry for him after those articles, but i suppose that was the intention.

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When will his two year ban be lifted.

Will it be from the date of the test or the when his official ban starts, which could be in another six weeks?

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "When will his two year ban be lifted.

Will it be from the date of the test or the when his official ban starts, which could be in another six weeks?'"


Im sure i read its from when he was first suspended.

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I think people need to get off Hock's back. You're allowed to make mistakes as long as you try to redeem them.

We can judge him if he does not make the effort during his ban, or once he has served his ban, fails to redeem himself and makes the same mistake. Only then will we know if he means it, or his attitude is, at best, cavalier. By all means, judge him then, but for now, leave him alone.

I've never taken cocaine, and am very anti-drugs, however I'm not into condemning the lad. I do wonder, however, how many of you who say he's not fit to burn have had a bit of a dabble yourself?

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he s made a mistake he s got his 2 years i hope he can come back a better player 1 day

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Quote: AJ "Im sure i read its from when he was first suspended.'"


I think it will be from when he was first suspended so he will be available to play the back end of the 2011 season. Big blockbusting Prop by then would in my opinion be a real asset if we were to stand by him, regardless of the moral considerations.

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Quote: ROBINSON "I think people need to get off Hock's back. You're allowed to make mistakes as long as you try to redeem them.

We can judge him if he does not make the effort during his ban, or once he has served his ban, fails to redeem himself and makes the same mistake. Only then will we know if he means it, or his attitude is, at best, cavalier. By all means, judge him then, but for now, leave him alone.

I've never taken cocaine, and am very anti-drugs, however I'm not into condemning the lad. I do wonder, however, how many of you who say he's not fit to burn have had a bit of a dabble yourself?'"




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Quote: jonh "I think it will be from when he was first suspended so he will be available to play the back end of the 2011 season. Big blockbusting Prop by then would in my opinion be a real asset if we were to stand by him, regardless of the moral considerations.'"


There is no reason at this stage not to stand by him. If he's remorseful and puts the effort in, then we should put it down as a stupid mistake.

Time will tell on this one. If he doesn't mean it, it will soon be apparent that he's back using drugs, or cannot be bothered to come back and play.

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according to Vievers he was on SSN last week saying that they are supporting him 100% so looks like they won't sack him he said he has made a mistake but we are behind him.

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Quote: jonh "I think it will be from when he was first suspended so he will be available to play the back end of the 2011 season. Big blockbusting Prop by then would in my opinion be a real asset if we were to stand by him, regardless of the moral considerations.'"


I was at first a moral poster on the subject, im 100% anti drugs and have never tried a single one and believed we should sack him. However, will any other club consider the morality of the situation or will they just sign him like Huddersfield did with Hudson.

We could be cutting our nose off to spite our face if we just cut him adrift.

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Quote: AJ "I suspect the club will stand by him, I feel more sorry for him after those articles, but i suppose that was the intention.'"


so does that mean that you also feel sorry for all the Chav's, Smack heads and other general drug taking scum, or, could it be that because of Hock's talent he is allowed to make these type of boo boo's, he should be sent from the club with not one ounce of help, he has made his bed now he can lie in it, it wasn't the odd snort it was 8+ months of abusing the Devils Dandruff, Bin him off, i doubt he will sort himself out, he has shamed the club and us fans, there seemed to be more outrage over the Chris Ashton photo gaff, some fans need to take of the Cherry & White tinted spectacles and look at the bigger picture.

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Quote: AJ "I was at first a moral poster on the subject, im 100% anti drugs and have never tried a single one and believed we should sack him. However, will any other club consider the morality of the situation or will they just sign him like Huddersfield did with Hudson.

We could be cutting our nose off to spite our face if we just cut him adrift.'"


I agree 100% i think he has the potential to become a world class prop and the time away from the game although not ideal may very well help him become just that, i have made a few mistakes in my time and i am not in a position to judge the lad so speaking from a purely rugby point of view i hope we retain him, as you say if we do let him go i am sure another club will happily sign him up once his ban is served and reap the benefit of a fired up Hock looking to make up for 2 years out of the game.

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