My main hope for the Wigan-Leeds rivalry is that it stays parked in the club shirts over the autumn. On form, I would expect more Wigan players than Leeds in the 4 nations squad, but at the very least I think Sinfield, Peacock and Hall will be there, and we really desperately need a united England squad.

As enjoyable as the Saints v Leeds rivalry was in the 2007-2009 period, it didn't do the national team much good.

Not wanting to detract from what is a riveting thread.

But Peacock shouldn't be in the Four Nations squad. Plenty of other players have performed better than he has this season. Then again with McNamara in charge I fully expect Peacock to be there alongside a half blind Morley.

I wouldn't take Peacock tbh. Still a very good prop but I think we have seen props this season in better form than Peacock who would be itching to have a go e.g. Lee Mossop. I would take Burrow because we seen from Saturday how he can influence a game.

One person I would definitely leave out is Danny McGuire. Not mainly down to the fact of his RL ability, but more down to the fact we don't want him disrupting the camp. After just watching the game back for the 1st time the way this lad reacted on Saturday was disgraceful. For the last ten minutes he had lost it. Slapping Charnley in the face after Ryan Hall's try. Swinging out at Tommy at the very end before going back to look for more and attempting to headbutt Tommy after the final whistle. Very unprofessional, and yes Leeds fans can comment about Sam Tomkins, but that has been dealt with.

I was going to start my own thread about this, but we all know where it would of went I'm just surprised nothing about Danny McGuire has been mentioned at all?

You need at least one experienced old head in that squad, the Oz have always had one, even if there was a player slightly better about. You need someone the whole team look up to and someone the team can look to when the chips are down.

One of Morley and Peacock should be left out of the England squad IMO if both are fit. We need experience but we also need to look to the future and by playing both were holding somebody back (Probably Mossop).

As it stands Morley looks unlikely to be fit so for now Peacock would gain a place in my squad to help look after the youngsters (of which there should be plenty).

As for Wigan players I believe should be in a 23/24 man squad I'd have Sam and Joel Tomkins, O'Loughlin, Charnley and Mossop with Prescott coming very close to selection. If I was to look at the Leeds players I'd include it would be Peacock, Hall and Jones Bishop with Watkins close to selection (he may just need another 12 months).

Of course you would.

Back to internationals, the logical approach is to stack out the team with the English qualified players from Wigan and Warrington, and teams like Leeds, Saints, Bulls etc will just make up the numbers. Peacock probably hasn't earned a jersey as he has been injured most of the season, but I think he will get a shout due to Morley being crocked.

Not everyone in the world are armchair-fans, some of us actually engage in the sports we watch and love - I've grown up training and fighting with kids who are now pros in both MMA and Boxing. A good friend of mine, used to kickbox with him, is the most well-known British UFC fighter in the world, I think you know the guy.

I'd take Bailey in most fighting disciplines - the man can't even throw a real punch!

I love it when posters take themselves so seriously!!!

Could you teach me how to draw a puppy based on ovals and circles?

to be fair, he hasnt got heavy hands

I also agree with you.