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[quote="JWP":1a6njd9t]Sam looks to me to be the type who 'disconnects' halfway through a game of FIFA when getting a good hiding, and that's just not on, Sam.[/quote:1a6njd9t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_48172.jpg |
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Then compare Cross to Ben Harrison if you want to play those games.
Take note of missed tackles, penalties and errors.
then you have to try and outweigh the negative sides of Ben's game with the positives, look at metres made, offloads, tackle busts, clean breaks, tackles etc.
Stats can be manipulated any which way.
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| Quote: THEOriginalWire "No, im suggesting that the mood on here would change as to whether it was worth the risk to sign him, if in a few months time he costs you the sl title.
Joel has been good for us all season, and should he make a mistake it would not make him a bad signing, because of all the good he's done us all year, rather than doing alright for a few weeks then losing the team the final.'"
It's a fair point, but we both know if any one player, from any team makes a mistake that costs his team a trophy then there'll be a queue of idiots with short-term memory impairment lining up to blame him for everything post WW2.
I suppose we'll only know the full value of the signing once the season's over and we can judge it based on how we did.
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[quote="JWP":1a6njd9t]Sam looks to me to be the type who 'disconnects' halfway through a game of FIFA when getting a good hiding, and that's just not on, Sam.[/quote:1a6njd9t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_48172.jpg |
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| Quote: Guerrier "It's a fair point, but we both know if any one player, from any team makes a mistake that costs his team a trophy then there'll be a queue of idiots with short-term memory impairment lining up to blame him for everything post WW2.
I suppose we'll only know the full value of the signing once the season's over and we can judge it based on how we did.'"
Agreed.
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| This isn't a 'troll' attempt but a genuine question.
How does he fit in on the non-federation trained list? I can see how he fits in on the quota with other passports granting immunity but I'm struggling to fit him on the limit of 5 non-federation trained? I know Hansen was trained by Wigan but unsure on the following:
Richards, Carmont, Leuluai, Lima, Finch, Hoffman, Roberts & Cross.
As I said earlier, I know its not an issue on the quota limit, it's the non-fed trained I'm referring too. Would appreciate it if somebody could enlighten me, thanks.
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| Quote: BackrowSaint "This isn't a 'troll' attempt but a genuine question.
How does he fit in on the non-federation trained list? I can see how he fits in on the quota with other passports granting immunity but I'm struggling to fit him on the limit of 5 non-federation trained? I know Hansen was trained by Wigan but unsure on the following
Fed trained:
Leuluai (was at Quins for 3 years before he was 21)
Richards + Carmont (Here before the exception rule - pre 200icon_cool.gif
Non Fed trained:
Lima
Finch
Hoffman
Roberts
Cross
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| Quote: inside_man "Fed trained
Thanks!
Edit: When did you sign Rangi Chase?!
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| Quote: BackrowSaint "Thanks!
Edit: When did you sign Rangi Chase?!
You missed the memo? Pah, keep up!
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| I havent really seen a great deal of him but the fact that he couldnt get in the Leeds team and didnt play for 3 months makes me very wary. However we desperately need another prop and any experienced prop is a bonus for us and it is only for a few months if it doesnt work out.
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| Quote: Famous "I havent really seen a great deal of him but the fact that he couldnt get in the Leeds team and didnt play for 3 months makes me very wary. However we desperately need another prop and any experienced prop is a bonus for us and it is only for a few months if it doesnt work out.'"
This is the main thing. This won't turn out to be a crap signing, because it isn't really a signing. Cross is at Wigan as back-up, no more and no less.
There was something vaguely frenzied about the Warrington fan trying to tell us all that this was a poor piece of business. Clearly the lad was hurting.
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| Quote: Ron "So no short term signing can ever have a negative effect (according to wigan fans).... good to know.'"
Has nobody banned this tool yet?
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| With Cross, what you see is what you get. He's not a super star, but a typical hard grafting Aussie forward who will make the hard yards and provide a bit of go forward, but at the same time will giveaway daft penalties. His tackling is not as bad as some would have you believe, yes he misses some, but he usually puts in plenty of effort in that department when he's on the field, and if it gets a bit tasty, he's not slow in getting stuck in.
For me, this was a guy who's face didn't fit in with the current coaches at Headingley, and to let him go during the season is simply just another of the baffling decisions we've had at Headingley all year.
He's an excellent back up forward for you, and I think this decision could come back and bite us on the ass!
Assuming of course, that Wire don't hump you out of the cup!
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| Quote: BillyRhino "With Cross, what you see is what you get. He's not a super star, but a typical hard grafting Aussie forward who will make the hard yards and provide a bit of go forward, but at the same time will giveaway daft penalties. His tackling is not as bad as some would have you believe, yes he misses some, but he usually puts in plenty of effort in that department when he's on the field, and if it gets a bit tasty, he's not slow in getting stuck in.
For me, this was a guy who's face didn't fit in with the current coaches at Headingley, and to let him go during the season is simply just another of the baffling decisions we've had at Headingley all year.
He's an excellent back up forward for you, and I think this decision could come back and bite us on the ass!
Assuming of course, that Wire don't hump you out of the cup!
i read somewhere that mcdermott told him early on he wasnt part of his plans.....prob why he played cr@p.
if he plays well for us its another indication that mcdermotts out of his depth at top level
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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]: |
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| Quote: wigan pie man "
if he plays well for us its another indication that mcdermotts out of his depth at top level'"
very true! But let's not forget madge is awesome at this! He's taken some players who looked quite average for you lot and got them playing out of their skin! Fielden, coley, Roberts(pre injury), goulding, riddel. He's even given deacon a new lease of life.
I think madge will get cross ripping up trees!
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| Quote: sgtwilko "very true! But let's not forget madge is awesome at this! He's taken some players who looked quite average for you lot and got them playing out of their skin! Fielden, coley, Roberts(pre injury), goulding, riddel. He's even given deacon a new lease of life.
I think madge will get cross ripping up trees!'"
Agreed, this is a positive move that will sustain Wigans momentum back to the top. The pack has worked extremely hard all season and they deserve the support of a signing like Cross.
And just remember the other teams don't have this luxury
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