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Make Clubby's punishment to be Tommy's tackle bag for the week.

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Quote: puroresu_boy "Non white people do not need white people telling them what is offensive and what isn't.'"


This.

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Quote: Pie_Eyter "Next time we play Warrington or Saints and i hear 'You Warrington/St Helens Baaastards' i will report it to a steward for racism as calling somebody names because of where they are from is now deemed as racist allegedly. It seems that if your skin colour isn't white then you can cite racism for anything these days and the media hop all over it. Some people need educating on what racism really is because the world has gone pathetically soft. Being forced to apologize for things that happened 200 years ago etc. Frig off and grow some balls. Jesus, some folk would have heart attacks if they heard the kind of stuff we called each other at work. Its called banter, some folk should try it, either that or wear a t-shirt that says 'i am offended by everything' so normal folk can automatically ignore you from the off.'"


Yet you are outraged by other’s opinions, do you need a t shirt?

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Quote: puroresu_boy "Non white people do not need white people telling them what is offensive and what isn't.

As for the "forced apologies" for actions done 200 years ago, what actions do you mean? Colonisation, Slavery?

I would say an apology is getting off lightly. When a country still benefits from those actions centuries ago and the ones who suffered are still suffering centuries later I would say damn right there should be an apology. An apology isn't saying people today are to blame but what it should mean is those that did take part in such things are no longer revered or celebrated.

Repirations would be the correct action nevermind an apology.'"


As a descendant of Catholic Irish immigrants, forced to leave their homes due to the potatoe famine, can I put a claim in for reparations too? The effects of that mass immigration into Liverpool still impacts the area today.

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Neither of them are races.'"


neither is polynesia

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Quote: puroresu_boy "Non white people do not need white people telling them what is offensive and what isn't.

As for the "forced apologies" for actions done 200 years ago, what actions do you mean? Colonisation, Slavery?

I would say an apology is getting off lightly. When a country still benefits from those actions centuries ago and the ones who suffered are still suffering centuries later I would say damn right there should be an apology. An apology isn't saying people today are to blame but what it should mean is those that did take part in such things are no longer revered or celebrated.

Repirations would be the correct action nevermind an apology.'"


so your saying people cant forge an opinion a subject due to their race, thats interesting

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Quote: sergeant pepper "As a descendant of Catholic Irish immigrants, forced to leave their homes due to the potatoe famine, can I put a claim in for reparations too? The effects of that mass immigration into Liverpool still impacts the area today.'"


Be my guest.

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Quote: Pieman "so your saying people cant forge an opinion a subject due to their race, thats interesting'"


I'm saying non white people do not need to be told what's racist and offensive to them.

Just as a gypsy doesn't need to be told by me a non gypsy what terminology they should and should not find offensive.

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Quote: puroresu_boy "I'm saying non white people do not need to be told what's racist and offensive to them.

Just as a gypsy doesn't need to be told by me a non gypsy what terminology they should and should not find offensive.'"


so your saying no person needs to be told whats racist and offensive to them

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Not sure if its been mentioned on this thread but would have thought Jake Connor may be in danger of missing the quarter final - looked a deliberate high shot to Hardaker plus use of the elbow on the floor a little earlier than that (again on Hardaker). Would prefer him to play as I like seeing the best players on the field but it might be a question mark.

There will definitely be no shortage of emotion in this game. Keeping cool might be the message from both coaches this week.

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Quote: puroresu_boy "I'm saying non white people do not need to be told what's racist and offensive to them.

Just as a gypsy doesn't need to be told by me a non gypsy what terminology they should and should not find offensive.'"

Correct

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Quote: Pieman "so your saying no person needs to be told whats racist and offensive to them'"


Well in what context?

Someone calling someone a 'a stupid Scottish c u n t may not see the Scottish person take huge offense however that does not mean calling someone' a stupid Polynesian v u n t is not extremely offensive to the Polynesian on the receiving end of such abuse.

The real question should be why would Clubb feel he has to even use Savelio's ethnicity in the first place? Why not just use the C word? The fact that he felt the need to mention the ethnicity of Savelio to me speaks volumes. I just don't understand how one thinks like that.

I've had plenty arguments with people but not once have I even thought to use someone's ethnicity, race, nationality, religion against them let alone say such a thing.

If someones a prick they are a prick. I'll tell them that. What there race or nationality maybe is irrelevant and has no bearing on them being a prick so why the heck use them as well?

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Again - it wasn't "Polynesian" that was the insult. Savelio[i is[/i Polynesian. Similarly if someone was called a "stupid Asian ****" it's not "Asian" that's the insult.

If Clubb called Savelio a "stupid Polynesian ****" he's saying that Savelio is stupid and a **** for [ibeing[/i Polynesian.'"

I get that but normally the Asian, black or whatever part of the insult is used because the person throwing the insult sees that as somehow inferior or beneath themselves. I've never seen or heard of that attitude with regard to Polynesians. To extend your analogy to call someone a white c**t wouldn't be seen as racist (rightly or wrongly). What I'm saying is I've never heard Polynesian used in this way either. I'm certainly not excusing it (you seem to be of the opinion that I am for some reason) I'm merely making the observation that it's a strange choice of phrase and not one that I have ever come across.

Could I ask if you have?

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If anyone wants a example of why the sports of Football, Rugby League and Rugby Union are having a weekend boycott of social media, they only need to look at many of the comments about the alleged case of racist abuse in the Hull game.

To its credit, the rival website of Wigan Warriors Fans has closed down for the weekend in support of the boycott.

RL Fans should have done the same as social media is now out of control as proved by many of the comments we are now seeing these days.

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Quote: Phuzzy "I get that but normally the Asian, black or whatever part of the insult is used because the person throwing the insult sees that as somehow inferior or beneath themselves. I've never seen or heard of that attitude with regard to Polynesians. To extend your analogy to call someone a white c**t wouldn't be seen as racist (rightly or wrongly). What I'm saying is I've never heard Polynesian used in this way either. I'm certainly not excusing it (you seem to be of the opinion that I am for some reason) I'm merely making the observation that it's a strange choice of phrase and not one that I have ever come across.

Could I ask if you have?'"


I've not heard it used in this context but there are hundreds, possibly thousands of ethnic groups you could say the same for. Using someone's ethnicity as part of an insult gives it a completely different context.

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