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Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!"
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| Quote: Paul Youane "Do you honestly think Gleeson has been better than King this year?
Compare the stats for King/Bridge/Gleeson on the SL site.'"
He has for be because as I said I've seen around 35+ hours of Gleeson whereas I've seen around maybe 10/15 hours of the other 2?
You can Quote stats as much as you like but I know what I see with my own eyes and even though I wouldn't have any qualms about any of those 3 being my right centre at Wigan I know the job Gleeson has done for Wigan and for "This Wigan Team" I wouldn't swap him for the other 2.
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| Quote: Cruncher "This discussion is getting close to pointless...'"
It went beyond pointless a good few pages back. All that you're going to get now are fans of both clubs nitpicking and being pedantic with daft, pathetic little snipes and 'my water carrier is better than yours'.
Tony Smith is a top quality coach and has proved it. Warrington are one of the top sides in European rugby league at the moment and it looks like Smith has laid a platform for continued success for at least a few more seasons yet.
In my opinion if either Wire or Wigan win the Grand Final, then their coach will win Coach of the Year. I think Noble has done wonders at Crusaders, but would come a fine third for me.
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icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock
"I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count"
[quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote]
Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!"
I thanked him and went on my Merry way!
RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015!
"The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth."
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| Quote: Wire_85 "So because Wigan finished 4 points (nats bollock) ahead it proves Gleeson is better?
So because you won the CC it proves the other 3 are better than Gleeson how?
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| Quote: Wire_85 "So because Wigan finished 4 points (nats bollock) ahead it proves Gleeson is better?
No. But if Wire have got three players in the middle who are better than him, I'd expect them to do have done a bit better than us (considering they regard him as 'dead wood').
But, as I said in the same post, it doesn't really prove anything either way.
You need to accept that Gleeson has been a very good signing for Wigan. We're not just making that up to spite you lot. It's true.
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| I said he had been a good signing for you as have others.
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| Quote: Jukesays "So because you won the CC it proves the other 3 are better than Gleeson how?'"
No it doesn't.
But winning 2 Challenge Cups since he left proves we don't miss him either.
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icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock
"I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count"
[quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote]
Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!"
I thanked him and went on my Merry way!
RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015!
"The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth."
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| Quote: Wire_85 "No it doesn't.
But winning 2 Challenge Cups since he left proves we don't miss him either.'"
And as per the thread on your site (Proving you guys want to convince yourself that he's upset he left Warrington so you'll doing anything to prove it) You may have won more if he'd stayed and been an even better side?
Also if my Aunty had balls Etc?
Pure Speculation.
You guys are happy with your team, were happy with ours.
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| Quote: Cruncher "if Warrington have THREE centres who are better than him, their lowlier position in the league table doesn't provide much evidence of it.'"
Nope, but the fact that all three have three times (or more) the assists that Gleeson has is a decent indicator, especially given one of them has spent a lot of time on the wing.
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| Quote: Jukesays "And as per the thread on your site (Proving you guys want to convince yourself that he's upset he left Warrington so you'll doing anything to prove it) You may have won more if he'd stayed and been an even better side?
Also if my Aunty had balls Etc?
Pure Speculation.
You guys are happy with your team, were happy with ours.'"
We wouldn't have won more. Bad influence in the dressing room, incorrect attitude etc.
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| Wire trophy count with Gleeson - 0
Wire trophy count without Gleeson - 2
Wigan trophy count with - 0 (for now)
Wigan trophy count without - 0
Facts speak for themselves. Although as somebody said previously both parties are happy.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Nope, but the fact that all three have three times (or more) the assists that Gleeson has is a decent indicator, especially given one of them has spent a lot of time on the wing.'"
Lies, damn lies and statistics.
Gleeson has been integral to Wigan's success this season, not just in attack but also in defence, and I wouldn't take any of Wire's centres ahead of him.
But as I said before, neither I, nor the Wire lad, nor you, are in a position to appreciate the full performance of each other's players, so it's a pointless attempt at point-scoring, if such a thing is possible.
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| Quote: Mark "Wire trophy count with Gleeson - 0
Wire trophy count without Gleeson - 2
Wigan trophy count with - 1
Wigan trophy count without - 0
Facts speak for themselves. Although as somebody said previously both parties are happy.'"
Edited for accuracy. It's a small point, but I'm sure you wouldn't want to get a reputation for having a selective memory when it comes to facts that speak for themsleves.
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| Quote: Mark "Wire trophy count with Gleeson - 0
Wire trophy count without Gleeson - 2
Wigan trophy count with - 0 (for now)
Wigan trophy count without - 0
Facts speak for themselves. Although as somebody said previously both parties are happy.'"
But Wigan are top and Warrington are 3rd therefore logic suggests all our players are better than all your players
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Nope, but the fact that all three have three times (or more) the assists that Gleeson has is a decent indicator, especially given one of them has spent a lot of time on the wing.'"
The problem there is that doesn't take into account the teams plays, e.g. we throw a cut out pass to Goulding a LOT on that side that keeps Gleeson's assist numbers far lower than they would be.
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| Quote: Cruncher "Lies, damn lies and statistics.
Gleeson has been integral to Wigan's success this season, not just in attack but also in defence, and I wouldn't take any of Wire's centres ahead of him.
But as I said before, neither I, nor the Wire lad, nor you, are in a position to appreciate the full performance of each other's players, so it's a pointless attempt at point-scoring, if such a thing is possible.'"
Attack definitely but I'm not so sure about defense, he's not the strongest defender IMO. I'd definitely take King and Atkins ahead of him, not too sure about Bridge.
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