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I've seen Wigan win everything. Yes it would be nice for us to win the CC or Superleague, but for the good of the game as a whole I would rather see England win the World Cup.

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Quote: Bondi_Warrior "Not enough people care about the International game because its not competatvie enough.'"
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Exactly, and this falls on the shoulders of the RFL and the clubs. If they don't care, then how can they expect the fans to give a flying monkey? We all saw how 'England' performed at the last World Cup didn't we... The team was knackered before it even got on the pitch. We can't raise ourselves for the big event but Australian players manage to do it for Origin and the internationals too.

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A purple patch inspired on his home ground by man of the match WIGAN CAPTAIN Sean O’Loughlin produced three tries in an eight-minute spell just before half-time, and the GB Lions added two more after the break to maintain Smith’s 100 per cent record as Great Britain coach. Sat 27th April 2002 St Helens 12 Wigan 21 Edinburgh - Sat 4th May 2002 Celtic 2 Rangers 3 Glasgow (Carlsberg dont do weeks, but if they did.....) //www.internationalrugbyleague.net/:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_36409.jpg



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Thing is about England, their consistency in a tournament is dyer. They will go and claim one victory over the likes of Australia or New Zealand, then lose the rest. They need to bring youth into their team, bring in talent rather than reputations.

Briscoe
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Quote: fekafan17 "Thing is about England, their consistency in a tournament is dyer. They will go and claim one victory over the likes of Australia or New Zealand, then lose the rest. They need to bring youth into their team, bring in talent rather than reputations.

Briscoe
Fox
Atkins
Senior
Hall
Maguire
Burrow
Peacock
Moore
Graham
Ellis
Wilkin
Sinfield

Roby
Burgess
Crabtree
Gilmour'"


I agree, so why have you picked Senior and Sinfield, a guy who has never performed at international level???

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Quote: Bondi_Warrior "I agree, so why have you picked Senior and Sinfield, a guy who has never performed at international level???'"
I agree, Sinfield has not been at his best at international level, as have the majority of england players. But i feel if we can give him a consistent starting place, he will lead the team and replicate his form at leeds. Look at long for example. For years he under-performed for GB and England, however, his game in australia in which we won 26-12 was outstanding, that is what i feel we can get out of sinfield.

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I would personally choose Wigan every day of the week but a part of me cant help but think, for the good of the game, England winning the world cup would do wanders for us over here.

My England team if we was to play the 4 nations tommorow would be...


1Shaun Briscoe
2Peter Fox
3Michael Shenton
4Keith Senior
5Ryan Hall
6Leon Pryce
7Rob Burrow
8Adrian Morley
9Scott Moore (alot of people may shoot me down on this choice but IMO hes been the best hooker in the league this season when ever ive watched Hudds. He always looks so dangorous)
10Jamie Peac0ck
11Gareth Ellis
12Sean O'loughlin/Sam Bugesss
13Sean O'loughlin/Sam Burgess(can not make my mind up which way around i would play the 2 to be honest)

14James Graham
15Eorl(sp) Crabtree (i always though he was very over rated myself but this season he has been the most improved player in super league IMO and deserves a chance)
16James Roby
17Kyle Eastmond

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[color=#000000:1qsyq8gi]Wigan Warriors 2010:[/color:1qsyq8gi] [color=red:1qsyq8gi]Super League Champions League Leaders Under 20's Champions Club of The Year Floodlit 9's Winners Pat Richards: Man Of Steel Sam Tomkins: Young Player of the Year Michael Maguire: Coach of the Year[/color:1qsyq8gi] [quote="Wire_91":1qsyq8gi]its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are[/quote:1qsyq8gi]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_26076.jpg



Wigan all the way, i do enjoy watching England/GB though.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Why on earth have some people put Sinfield in their team? Over Lockers in some cases icon_eek.gif

I am not sure we are stuggling for wingers so much we have quite a few who will do a good job, Hall and Fox are both good players. We just cannot compete in the centres and halves.

I think my point has been proved then. The international game is not going to grow because not enough people care about it, including me, the only thing bigger than watching Wigan is watching the world cup. Also it is not competitive enough.

I hope the 2013 WC changes all this and England win it.

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England. I've waited a long time to see them win something. It would make national news and some players might become as famous as Johnny Wilkinson. A real boost for the game.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Salty "England. I've waited a long time to see them win something. It would make national news and some players might become as famous as Johnny Wilkinson. A real boost for the game.'"


That will never happen.

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Wigan winning is nothing new, England would be, so England for me icon_biggrin.gif

1. Briscoe
2. Fox
3. Shenton
4. Atkins
5. Hall
6. Tomkins
7. Eastmond
8. Peacock
9. Moore
10. Graham
11. Ellis
12. Morley
13. O'Loughlin

14. Roby
15. Crabtree
16. LMS
17. Mossop

Doesn't matter who we pick, the Aussies will still hammer us. May as well put some kids in for the future icon_biggrin.gif

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England every time.

30 years of getting smashed all about ensures if we could win a world cup it would personally be the greatest thing i could see as a rugby league fan, although to be fair an Ashes victory would be just as sweet.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: jonh "England every time.

30 years of getting smashed all about ensures if we could win a world cup it would personally be the greatest thing i could see as a rugby league fan, although to be fair an Ashes victory would be just as sweet.'"


I think everyone would find themselves loving it if we won the WC or the ashes. The atmosphere in the early tri nations series showed how much it means to alot of fans, we need to repeat those big close games and then win some and start moving to bigger stadiums. I wish the RFL had enough money to build a 40,000 seater stadium for our international game. Something like the JJB but filled in with seats in the corners. We do not have a home and it sets us appart from other sports when they have Lords, Wembley, Twickenham, Wimbledon, we need a home, in the north.

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The team that should be picked for the 4 nations is the up and coming talent that the coach believes will be playing in 2013 WC . We need to be bringing these players thru now not in 18months 2 years time when its to late.We need to get them to play as unit know each others strengths and weaknesses its ok playing the likes of senior morley sinfield burrows maguire for the 4 nations but when WC time comes around these players will be either past it or nearing the ends of their careers

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