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| Quote: odemwingie "Why?'"
Really?
Lets start with the fact he is an RU coach.
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| Quote: AJ "Really?
Lets start with the fact he is an RU coach.'"
Well Edwards was a Rugby League player and is now Rugby Union coach. Change can happen.
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| Quote: piemandan "Well Edwards was a Rugby League player and is now Rugby Union coach. Change can happen.'"
But Edwards wasn't new to Rugby Union. He'd played it at a reasonably high level in his youth.
Besides, I don't think that, just because one man has made the switch successfully, others will do the same. Look at the players who've failed to cut it when they've switched codes. It's happened both ways, and it's happened a lot. Probably more have failed than have succeeded.
Don't get me wrong. I'd be interested to see Eddie Jones involved with Wigan at some level, but I don't think he could possibly be appointed head coach straight away.
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| I thought Eddie Jones had been a Rugby League coach in the distant past.
Can't see him being head coach after so long out of the game.
Same as before, Director of Rugby, Noble head coach and Faz as his assistant
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| Eddie Jones is a class operator in RU with a solid CV. How that would work in RL with Noble as well, I can't see it.
These situations where you bring in a "Director of Rugby" or something similar always seem to end in tears in RL, RU and football more often than not.
As for Faz, it goes without saying that I along with most people on here would love to see him back at Wigan in some capacity. His lad's doing well for Sarries and Faz is respected in RU for his leadership skills despite not quite having done it playing wise.
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| Quote: Cruncher "But Edwards wasn't new to Rugby Union. He'd played it at a reasonably high level in his youth.
Besides, I don't think that, just because one man has made the switch successfully, others will do the same. Look at the players who've failed to cut it when they've switched codes. It's happened both ways, and it's happened a lot. Probably more have failed than have succeeded.
Don't get me wrong. I'd be interested to see Eddie Jones involved with Wigan at some level, but I don't think he could possibly be appointed head coach straight away.'"
Eddie Jones has far more exposure to League than Edwards did to Union. Jones was the chief point of contact for the ARU when they were targeting NRL players, he is widley credited with stealing ideas from League and incorporating them in union, i think he may even have his coaching badges from Australia, he is a massive fan and student of the game.
That being said could he or should he come to the biggest league club in the world and walk into the head coach position, never. The only possible chance is if he were to bring in a strong experienced and well respected number 2, which i where i guess the Faz links comes.
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| Quote: jonh "Eddie Jones has far more exposure to League than Edwards did to Union. Jones was the chief point of contact for the ARU when they were targeting NRL players, he is widley credited with stealing ideas from League and incorporating them in union, i think he may even have his coaching badges from Australia, he is a massive fan and student of the game.
That being said could he or should he come to the biggest league club in the world and walk into the head coach position, never. The only possible chance is if he were to bring in a strong experienced and well respected number 2, which i where i guess the Faz links comes.'"
That's something I didn't know, and would definitely put a different complexion on things.
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| Maybe Eddie Jones is going to come in and work along side IL? Remember last year IL was publicly critised by some players for not being full time at Wigan so if IL needs to look after his other interests then Jones could keep his eye on Wigan so to speak.
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| Quote: Cruncher "That's something I didn't know, and would definitely put a different complexion on things.'"
Do not quote me on that.......oh you already have!
Not 100% certain on it but i am sure i read somewhere he had taken the course at the time when he was the man poaching all the players and incorporating the systems into the Super 12 comp.
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| Quote: jonh "Eddie Jones has far more exposure to League than Edwards did to Union.'"
I don't know much about Eddie Jones, but Edwards was englad ru schoolboys captain, so I'd say otherwise. And I can't see what role there would be at the club for a union coach. They learn from us, not us from them
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| Quote: Bill_Barlow "Maybe Eddie Jones is going to come in and work along side IL? Remember last year IL was publicly critised by some players for not being full time at Wigan so if IL needs to look after his other interests then Jones could keep his eye on Wigan so to speak.'"
That would be viable. No-one has filled Lydon's boots yet, have they?
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| Quote: --[ WW ]-- "--"I don't know much about Eddie Jones, but Edwards was englad ru schoolboys captain, so I'd say otherwise. And I can't see what role there would be at the club for a union coach. They learn from us, not us from them'"
So you would say a lad who played Schoolboy rugby union 20 years ago has more experience than someone who has studied League all there lives. Its an interesting point of view i guess, but one which i cannot agree with.
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| Quote: --[ WW ]-- "--"I don't know much about Eddie Jones, but Edwards was englad ru schoolboys captain, so I'd say otherwise. And I can't see what role there would be at the club for a union coach. They learn from us, not us from them'"
Sadly that is the mentality of some of the leading "lights" in the game, and the longer we stick to this ignorant view the longer we harm our product.
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| Quote: --[ WW ]-- "--"I don't know much about Eddie Jones, but Edwards was England ru schoolboys captain, so I'd say otherwise. And I can't see what role there would be at the club for a union coach. They learn from us, not us from them'"
So there is nothing at all we can learn from one of Union's top coaches?
I'm not advocating for him to take Nobles job but i can see the benefits if he was working with the club. I’m sure there are plenty of practices used in Union which would work in RL.
I’m sure also there are plenty of practices currently used in the NRL which would transform our club. Sadly tho I really don’t think we have the leaders to implement these changes. Never have I seen more of secular group of people than some RL fans.
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| Cant believe the negativity Eddie Jones seems to be getting.
Australia under him played the nearest you can get a union side to play a league type of attack. He encouraged players to use the ball. Hence he had the best set of back row forwards in the modern game.
Ohh he has no league expereince hes not good enough etc. Who the hell is . Nobby, Milward both the most succesful coaches in SL. We wont get a big Australian Coach. We wont get Bennett. So who is good enough for us. Edwards wont come, yet he has no league coaching experience yet some think hes the 2nd coming of the messiah. Ellery gets the best one hes not coached a SL club for a long time.
So who do people think is a good enough coach for us. Seems the most experienced is never good enough and the ones with no coaching in league should not even be thought of. And the ones who ahve coached but stopped arent good enough.
Seems we have so many experts on here why dont you give it a go. As no one else will ever be good enough
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