A pencil is on its way

4th, albeit temporary... How crap is the rest of SL if we have gotten up to 4th?

For me, like London, I think the coach has got them exceptionally fit. They can run hard from deep in attack and have a great defensive line, for 80 minutes.

I think that’s why London may stay up and Saints will finish top.

But they aren’t unbeatable. Twice this season Wire have been their match until lack of discipline has seen someone sin binned.

Sadly, very.

A big reason why crowds are down. That and the format of the league means that games aren't box office anymore.

Your original post
There's no 'nice try' about it. You claimed that stats such as top try scorer proved who was best in a given position regardless of any other factors. You can't have it both ways. So which is it? Is Eden better than Makinson or do you concede that you were talking b0llocks?'"

How can you have been our match when we’ve beat you on both occasions? The first one was an absolute thumping as well. You don’t know whether you’d have won both games if the sin bins didn’t happen. We’re ahead of you by miles because we’re a far better side that is stronger in every position apart from hooker.

That is the most pointless post I’ve read on this forum.

The desperation is palpable. And somehow, I doubt NRL clubs appoint head coaches based on what teams won 50 years ago. Anyway, Saints have been more successful in the SL era than Wigan so that idea is absolute nonsense either way.

Desperation?

You’re a good side no doubt about it and I don’t think you can deny that is born out of the fact you have a top coach and a World Class front row. Take parts of that away and it will become a far bigger struggle for the rest of the ‘average to good’ superleague players (Makinson aside actually as he showed just how good he is in the test series)to dominate the way they are. Do you not think there’s a chance that in a couple of seasons Holbrook, Roby and Thompson will not be around anymore?

No desperation here, just realism!

The only desperation here is you pretending that rugby league only started in 1996. Come out of the bitter barn, you might enjoy it, despite remaining forever in our shadow.

Rugby League has been in existence for 125 years, superleague for 23 years. So if AS108 wants to argue take the percentages.
SL/RL =18.5%

If we take 18.5% of the superleague years that is equivalent of just over 4 years.

I wonder who has been the most successful clubs in the last four years of that era?

And just to add, since Superleague went to a fixed salary cap Leeds and Wigan have been the dominant forces in the game.

Won 50 years ago? We're the current champions and were when Maguire was poached, you idiot!

In fact I'll explain it to you see if you actually have the capacity to understand a simple concept.

For you to quote 'such as' as being 'the operative words' you would have needed to have included them in your original post. Otherwise they don't have any relevance to your argument.

You can't quote someone else's phrase and make out that it's yours. You didn't say 'stats such as top try scorer' in your post.

Is that simple enough for you?

Just stop, you’ve made yourself look like a fool end of. You posted ‘you claimed that stats such as’. That is you saying I used or said ‘stats such as’. Then you said I didn’t say stats such as. Quite clearly contradicting yourself. I think we’ll leave it there.