if thornley comes back and nails the position i can see gelling slugging it out with tuson and huges for the 4th bench spot he is a 2nd rower as it stands and makes plenty of meters.

He had a poor night last night. Confidence seemed shot after the break in the first half.

Still rather happy with him though.

King or Murphy should play next week. Any forward who looked that lost and failed to link with the team would have been dropped without any hesitation and the same should go for Gelling.

He's impressive returning the ball, good with ball in hand until he's in some space and he's good in the air. Unfortunately he's got no idea where to stand and he's certainly not a natural finisher like a good winger should be.

If you keep making the same mistakes week after week then you should be dropped.

This sums it up perfectly.

He's clearly a centre not a winger. Goulding is in great form at centre but I can't help but feel that the team would be stronger if he and Gelling swapped places.

Gelling is on the wing precisely because the coaching staff consider him to be a liability defensively and positionally. He is no where near ready to play centre at SL level. Gelling's only position next week should be in the reserves, King was dropped for far less than what Gelling did last night.

An aside on Gelling...

If you play on the left wing and run with the ball held in one hand, then it shouldn't be the right in respect of passing and handing off. Is it me or is that just basic?

Saying that, he may be raw but there is a talent worth building up. A good recruit.

I have a lot of time for Gelling. Yes he looks like a newly born fawn running round with about as much sense as one.
He just needs to work on his positional play. Every other aspect of his game is there. He's terrific under the high bomb, tackles like a trooper and he's a real handful with ball in hand.

Still if Wane feels King deserves a shot then so be it. It would be nice to have someone with real speed outside Carmont against Saints.

There has been absolutely nothing to suggest that Gelling would be better at centre than he is as a winger! He may have played there before but never at anywhere near this standard. Moving Goulding to accommodate him would be ludicrous and would leave our right hand side weaker than it was when Joel was there last season. IMO if Gelling is getting caught out of position on the wing, in both attacking and defensive situations, then I think it would only be much worse if he was in the centres, which is a much more positionally-demanding position.

Anyone else think some of Gellings failings are down to a lack of concentration? He seems to wander a bit and forget where he needs to be, then if there is a break he seems to be 3/4 yards out of position, hence some of George's instinctive passes going to ground. I think he has the physical aspects to be a very good SL winger, he just needs to work on some of the techinal and mental sides of his game.

Gelling is probrably the most frustrating player ive seen. One minute your praising him for his great work helping the forwards out or attacking a high kick to the corner and the next minute your holding your head in your hands because hes made a real blunder and bombed a try or done something really stupid. He really does need to learn to keep his composure and concentration.

I see Gelling being a really good replacement for Carmont in the very near future, especially when Pat's back in the side (and the other youngsters start getting more games).

I wouldn't move Goulding, he and Charnley are forming a good understanding partnership, especially with SOL feeding them quick passes.

Shouldnt he learn how to play RL in the reserves not in our first team?

His positioning is terrible, there have been so many times when if he had been in position there were certain tries on

Looked like SW was furious in the stand last night with Gelling in the first half, lip reading him there was a few expletives spoken. I wouldnt want to have been sat in the row in infront!!

its a good job wigan pieman wasnt sat there...I couldnt do with another 20 page thread

I don't mind Gelling at all. The mistakes he made last night were all mental errors, which can be worked on and ironed out in training. He clearly has ability and if we can find a way for him to perform consistently we'll have a very good player on our hands