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| Quote Les Norton="Les Norton"Higher average attendance? You may want to check that.'"
Maybe we have slipped this season but for the past 3 or 4 seasons its higher, i am sure on here will know the correct figure for this season.
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| IL has stated that the clubs want the meeting after the world cup and anything said in the meantime is just hearsay, it cant be to hard to understand why he isn't giving the full plan and ideas behind the "revolt".
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| Quote Les Norton="Les Norton"Higher average attendance? You may want to check that.
3 times in the last 10 years you've had a higher average attendance.'"
We only count the mortal attendees... Don't forget that the rugby gods are always there in great numbers...
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| so after reading the full article from the doncaster owner it becomes clear he is unhappy because he has signed some players no doubt expecting to use the extra funds that would be made available to championship clubs from cutting the funds to super league clubs. And the main backbone to his argument is that nobody knew IL when he was chairman of London hardly a great call out considering whats happening to London right now.
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| Quote dubairl="dubairl"He has sent a cover letter to the RFL to set a meeting about the subjects they would like to discuss after the world cup, What the news paper is trying to persuade people to believe like your self is that this is the plan agreed by majority of the clubs when truly its only a subject letter. People will find out the business plan/model the clubs have discussed and agreed upon (more than likely it will be more than 1 page).
But even the championship clubs must know that they don't deserve more money, the only real money coming in to rugby league in this country is the TV money and that is purely from the 14 clubs in super league it makes no sense to why clubs who don't even contribute should be awarded more money when the 14 super league clubs are struggling.
FYI Ian lenegan is more of an astute business man than me or your self so i wouldn't disagree to hard at what he suggests when it comes to the administration and set up of the ruling body.'"
A copy of the covering letter is what has been printed where he says he wants all the money to come to SL whereas the review says that it should be used to help the whole game.
To say any club outside SL doesn't deserve anything and don't contribute says it all and it's clear where the lesser mortals stand but please let no one involved in the game call it a "Rugby League Family" ever again.
Eventually it will become apparent that no one can stand alone with no routes or thriving infrastructure below the top tier but by then it will probably be too late.
SL clubs on their own can't produce enough quailty players as it is for the 14 clubs that are active now and with the scrapping of the under 21's made that even harder.
As to regards Mr Lenegan being a smart buisness man well so were the other chairmen at all the other SL clubs that got into trouble and who bailed them out, the RFL that have now no confidence in them.
Additionally if he were such a good buisness man and administrator he would not need to rely more and more on the available SKY money at the expense of looking at the game as a whole.
Anyway the message is clear enough, thank you for your concern brother.
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| Dubai, Sky is more interested in subs which are linked to viewing figures, imagine if 20000 RL fans cancelled sky sports and gave the reason as the decision of SL clubs?
£10m less income that can be quantified directly to a specific action by SL chairman has influence, 40000 has much more
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| Quote faxcar="faxcar"A copy of the covering letter is what has been printed where he says he wants all the money to come to SL whereas the review says that it should be used to help the whole game.
To say any club outside SL doesn't deserve anything and don't contribute says it all and it's clear where the lesser mortals stand but please let no one involved in the game call it a "Rugby League Family" ever again.
Eventually it will become apparent that no one can stand alone with no routes or thriving infrastructure below the top tier but by then it will probably be too late.
SL clubs on their own can't produce enough quailty players as it is for the 14 clubs that are active now and with the scrapping of the under 21's made that even harder.
As to regards Mr Lenegan being a smart buisness man well so were the other chairmen at all the other SL clubs that got into trouble and who bailed them out, the RFL that have now no confidence in them.
Additionally if he were such a good buisness man and administrator he would not need to rely more and more on the available SKY money at the expense of looking at the game as a whole.
Anyway the message is clear enough, thank you for your concern brother.'"
Don't worry, he also criticised the RFL for putting to much focus into the World Cup.
I assume he, and his gang of followers, will forfeit any profits which may be generated off the back of a successful tournament. Definitely got the best interests of the game at heart has Ian. Wigan's recent success hasn't gone to his head, not one bit, no sir.
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| Quote faxcar="faxcar"A copy of the covering letter is what has been printed where he says he wants all the money to come to SL whereas the review says that it should be used to help the whole game.
To say any club outside SL doesn't deserve anything and don't contribute says it all and it's clear where the lesser mortals stand but please let no one involved in the game call it a "Rugby League Family" ever again.
Eventually it will become apparent that no one can stand alone with no routes or thriving infrastructure below the top tier but by then it will probably be too late.
SL clubs on their own can't produce enough quailty players as it is for the 14 clubs that are active now and with the scrapping of the under 21's made that even harder.
As to regards Mr Lenegan being a smart buisness man well so were the other chairmen at all the other SL clubs that got into trouble and who bailed them out, the RFL that have now no confidence in them.
Additionally if he were such a good buisness man and administrator he would not need to rely more and more on the available SKY money at the expense of looking at the game as a whole.
Anyway the message is clear enough, thank you for your concern brother.'"
How about we wait till after the world cup to see the full module as i highly doubt that IL or any other super league chairmen is willing to ignore the championship clubs full stop.
I see championship clubs as i see Jersey RFU, they have naturally a very small fan base and started out in the lowest devision and a fully amateur club over the last ten years with a small ground and facilities have built the income naturally not putting them selves in financial danger trying to push into the premiership (currently 1 division below).
Regards to not finding enough talent to fill a super league team you can't point that finger at IL or wigan either, doesn't wigan have some financial tie up with the scorpions? just out of curiosity have many players in super league have a championship background?
The difference between IL and other chairmen is simple he seems more methodical and doesn't take unnecessary risks. cant find any information on any club/company he owns going into administration (not to detract that there are some truly remarkable business men within rugby league). I also don't believe that he is reliant on just sky money to run wigan, just fed up of having a penny pinched out of his pocket every time the RFL come up with a brain dead idea.
By the way i hope no championship club folds, i would rather have prosperous rugby league club in every town in the UK just under this administration it will never happen.
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| Quote Nostradamus's lad="Nostradamus's lad"Dubai, Sky is more interested in subs which are linked to viewing figures, imagine if 20000 RL fans cancelled sky sports and gave the reason as the decision of SL clubs?
£10m less income that can be quantified directly to a specific action by SL chairman has influence, 40000 has much more'"
completely agree but i also agree that there will be less followers of the game after super league loses any intensity it has left because it cant keep up with other codes. Its a fine line to try and balance on but at the moment superleague clubs are struggling and its not right to keep cutting fund from else where to give to the championship clubs.
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| Quote Nostradamus's lad="Nostradamus's lad"Dubai, Sky is more interested in subs which are linked to viewing figures, imagine if 20000 RL fans cancelled sky sports and gave the reason as the decision of SL clubs?
£10m less income that can be quantified directly to a specific action by SL chairman has influence, 40000 has much more'"
20,000 people cancel sky subscription due to SL clubs. Wait 40000 cancel
The championship clubs total attendance every week would not get close to it on an average of weekly attendances.
I do not know of anyone who is paying that much for SKY sports due to SL coverage alone and if they do they actually support a Super League club.
Remember that BT now has a sport channel and if Super League clubs run Super League Sky could lose over 150k viewers a week for a Rugby League game and that is a lot of lost advertisment revenue of the year. Given that Super League is one of the most watched live events on Sky Sports. Only Football, Golf and f1 come higher. For all its faults Super League has a decent TV viewing following.
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| Quote I see championship clubs as i see Jersey RFU, they have naturally a very small fan base and started out in the lowest devision and a fully amateur club over the last ten years with a small ground and facilities have built the income naturally not putting them selves in financial danger trying to push into the premiership (currently 1 division below).
Well thanks for that I was worried it might be the Outer Hebridean tiddly winks team.
Reserves of course.
Again it says it all.
Thanks, all the best and still come on Wigan against those Aussies.
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| Quote faxcar="faxcar"Quote I see championship clubs as i see Jersey RFU, they have naturally a very small fan base and started out in the lowest devision and a fully amateur club over the last ten years with a small ground and facilities have built the income naturally not putting them selves in financial danger trying to push into the premiership (currently 1 division below).
Well thanks for that I was worried it might be the Outer Hebridean tiddly winks team.
Reserves of course.
Again it says it all.
Thanks, all the best and still come on Wigan against those Aussies.'"
Jersey RFU are a great club and is no insult to any championship club to be compared to them. I believe a lot of championship clubs would benefit from speaking to RFU clubs in a similar position.
But at the end of the day majority of superleague clubs have lost all faith in RFL and if the RFL have led you to believe that the rule changes was passed and coming in to place then its just another sign of their incompetence.
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