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I’d never dream of challenging people without masks, as you’re bob on that they could be exempt but I’m not having it anywhere near the amount of people you see without them are exempt. I think there were about ten people in the pie shop I was in yesterday (Greenhalghs steak and kidney if anyone was wondering…beautiful) and me and one other women had one on. I was on the last bus back from Manchester one Friday evening about 2 weeks ago and it was hammered. I’d say at best 5 people had them on and that was out of approx 80-90 people.

I don’t blame people with the masks to be fair. Yes it’s no bother if you’re free of any issues that make it difficult to wear one but Boris is an idiot and did away with them previously, when people had got used to them, generally were complying and they certainly couldn’t do any harm in places like shops and on public transport.

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Quote: NickyKiss "I’d never dream of challenging people without masks, as you’re bob on that they could be exempt but I’m not having it anywhere near the amount of people you see without them are exempt. I think there were about ten people in the pie shop I was in yesterday (Greenhalghs steak and kidney if anyone was wondering…beautiful) and me and one other women had one on. I was on the last bus back from Manchester one Friday evening about 2 weeks ago and it was hammered. I’d say at best 5 people had them on and that was out of approx 80-90 people.

I don’t blame people with the masks to be fair. Yes it’s no bother if you’re free of any issues that make it difficult to wear one but Boris is an idiot and did away with them previously, when people had got used to them, generally were complying and they certainly couldn’t do any harm in places like shops and on public transport.'"


I absolutely agree there. I’d imagine 10-15 of those Rogues saw were not exempt but would say they were if challenged. That’s why it should be personal choice, it’s unenforceable and isn’t enforced anyway. A pointless law, achieving nothing.

You could have left the last paragraph at “Boris is an idiot” to be honest icon_lol.gif

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Quote: 100% Warrior "I absolutely agree there. I’d imagine 10-15 of those Rogues saw were not exempt but would say they were if challenged. That’s why it should be personal choice, it’s unenforceable and isn’t enforced anyway. A pointless law, achieving nothing.

You could have left the last paragraph at “Boris is an idiot” to be honest
I feel sorry for shop workers, bus drivers etc. No way should they have to challenge people. It’s just frustrating that again the ‘I won’t comply with anything’ mob make it difficult for people like yourself, who have genuine reasons.

If only I had 50p for every time I’ve seen the line ‘Boris is an idiot’ icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: The pieman "Unfortunately thats the times we live in. I cant blame shops / shop staff for not enforcing it, as they dont need the likely barrage of abuse that they will get from some of the people they stopped. My daughter works in retail and they have asked all their staff to wear masks, have signs up, but are not challenging anyone who isnt wearing a mask, purely so that their staff dont get abused'"


Totally agree mate

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Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "Shops just aren’t enforcing it.'"


There is no requirement within the law to wear a mask in a shop. Further, it seems illogical if you can go into a pub or restaurant without one.

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Quote: The pieman "Unfortunately thats the times we live in. I cant blame shops / shop staff for not enforcing it, as they dont need the likely barrage of abuse that they will get from some of the people they stopped. My daughter works in retail and they have asked all their staff to wear masks, have signs up, but are not challenging anyone who isnt wearing a mask, purely so that their staff dont get abused'"


There is no legal requirement to wear one so, I agree, it would be a pointless exercise to ask anyone to do so.

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Quote: Sweaty Betty's "There is no requirement within the law to wear a mask in a shop. Further, it seems illogical if you can go into a pub or restaurant without one.'"


rlhttps://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-ownrl

Yes there is.

Quote: Sweaty Betty's "In England, face coverings are now required by law in most indoor public places and on public transport, including taxis'"


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Quote: Sweaty Betty's "There is no legal requirement to wear one so, I agree, it would be a pointless exercise to ask anyone to do so.'"


it was brought back in as law during December as part of Plan B? (or whatever phase it was icon_smile.gif)

the retail consortium at the time said that they wouldnt be enforcing it as it would put undue pressure / abuse on their staff to police / enforce, and it should be the job of the police to enforce it. Given the governments record on 1. not wearing masks in house of commons (another it doesnt apply to us) and 2. partying last year after locking us all down, you can also see why there is so much reluctance to listen or follow the rules or guidance, as i genuinely dont think anyone trusts a word coming out of the government any more, whether that be from business or individuals

As it happens i would be exempt as i have Asthma, but have been able to tolerate wearing the mask without it impacting my breathing too much, so wear it when i need to, but it literally comes off as i am walking out the door into fresh air. I am currently isolating with my 2nd dose of covid and would say i have been pretty good in terms of following the guidance / laws etc that have been put into place. i have worn a mask in all shops / restaurants etc that i have been into, but just shows that you can follow guidance and still get it

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Quote: The pieman "it was brought back in as law during December as part of Plan B? (or whatever phase it was
It does make me laugh this type of rhetoric or reasoning (not necessarily aimed at you by the way - not sure if this is your opinion or you’re relaying what we all hear).
If you don’t believe they work, then don’t wear one and be honest about it. If your reasoning for not wearing one is that Wally who lives in London then you’re a bit of a prat.

“Boris is a d**k so I’ll go against what he’s saying and under-protect myself from this airborne virus”
“They all partied last Christmas so I’m not having that booster thing” is another classic I keep hearing.
Cutting your nose off to spite your face. It’s just downright thick from the “look at me going against the establishment, aren’t I cool’ brigade.

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Quote: Azul "It’s just downright thick from the “look at me going against the establishment, aren’t I cool’ brigade.'"


Add in those idiots who think it's "all about control" too.

Not that it is a conspiracy (because it definitely isn't), but if some group of mysterious global elite had the power and means to create a global pandemic, do you not think they'd have made a plan for those that didn't take the Vax as well?

Or have they been outsmarted by some moron from Plat Waz?

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Quote: Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy "rlhttps://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-ownrl

Yes there is.

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Thanks.

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Quote: The pieman "it was brought back in as law during December as part of Plan B? (or whatever phase it was
Ok I accept your interpretation as you are much closer to this issue than I am. I think the Government need to make it clearer and indeed if the police have the powers to enforce then they should be. Then again, I am not sure what the police do these days! What is the point of introducing laws if you are not going to make sure people comply?

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Quote: Sweaty Betty's "Ok I accept your interpretation as you are much closer to this issue than I am. I think the Government need to make it clearer and indeed if the police have the powers to enforce then they should be. Then again, I am not sure what the police do these days! What is the point of introducing laws if you are not going to make sure people comply?'"


i agree re the messages from government and that has been pretty consistent all through the pandemic (they have given mixed or confusing messages). in the last update, they said masks needed to be worn in certain places, but also said use your common sense etc

i think the police are in a no win situation (certainly at the minute if you look at the number of people not wearing masks) and i would rather they focussed on real crime, although some will argue that not wearing a mask is breaking the law (given my earlier explanation)

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Quote: Sweaty Betty's "Ok I accept your interpretation as you are much closer to this issue than I am. I think the Government need to make it clearer and indeed if the police have the powers to enforce then they should be. Then again, I am not sure what the police do these days! What is the point of introducing laws if you are not going to make sure people comply?'"


How? Have a cop patrolling Wigan Asda chasing Maureen and Brian up the frozen aisle to give them a fine? Come off it, that’ll cause uproar (rightly bloody so) and in any case no force in the land has the staff to be able to do that. Another reason to add to the “it’s unenforceable and that’s why it shouldn’t be mandated”.

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Quote: 100% Warrior "How? Have a cop patrolling Wigan Asda chasing Maureen and Brian up the frozen aisle to give them a fine? Come off it, that’ll cause uproar (rightly bloody so) and in any case no force in the land has the staff to be able to do that. Another reason to add to the “it’s unenforceable and that’s why it shouldn’t be mandated”.'"


Might as well they do sweet FA unless, that is, they are acting as the 'thought' police.

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