....And then there's you who does exactly the same the other way. So which is it?

You were simply better than us last week, thats plain to see, BUT Im 100% that this season we are a better side than you, the league table doesnt lie, and I think we underperformed although you were superb. If a lower team beats a team that has been consistently better than them all season, the higher team surely must have underperformed in some way to be beaten.

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Are you seriously posting this after yesterday's deluge of nonsense from people just like you ...

"Catalan lost 44-0 because the officials are corrupt!" "Catalan lost 44-0 because they had injuries!" "Catalan lost 44-0 because they were tired (awww)!"

I'd love to have been a fly on the wall in your house yesterday. I bet your face grew longer and longer and longer as Wigan systematically - without playing anywhere near as well as they can - took apart the team you had banked on to put us out.

Wigan finished 6 points ahead of Saints this year. That's a missed Millenium Magic conversion and a last minute Liam Farrell try away from finishing behind Saints. Despite all the injuries and off field problems Saints had all year.

People talk as if there is some sort of gaping chasm between the sides which would require a horrible Wigan performance for Saints to have a sniff. It's not the case as evidenced by all but one of the games played this year.

If anything it's Saints who have underperformed in most of those games with chopping and changing and inexperience in the halves leading to dominance not being capitalised upon.

But you didn't do that to us in defence last week and you weren't better in the forwards in the way we were last night so, again, I'm not sure what your argument is? You seem to be trying to shoehorn a 'one argument fits all' approach to every single game. That's simply not the case. Each game is different. last week you beat us, in the main, with your speed at the play the ball. You certainly weren't brutal in defence by any stretch of the imagination so, no, that argument doesn't fit that particular game. That's not to say you weren't better than us or only won because we were poor. Again, that's simply not the case and, despite you trying to put words in my mouth, not something I have ever claimed. In fact feel free to point out where I have rather than making things up.

I did say that Catalans weren't at their best, but there was good reason. They were shot by the hour mark and that was largely down the way Wigan targetted them in defence. Unless you'd care to point out all the other other examples of games recently were Catalans have been shot by the hour mark. I'd be interested to see that.

Would prefer Stains at Old Trafford, but whatever. Despite what I feel about scousers and their teams, they do provide entertaining opposition, especially given the dross onesidedness we have seen so far in the play offs. After watching the NRL play-offs, lot better format, the gap between the top 8 clubs in the UK and the top 8 in the NRL is huge.
Lets hope Leeds can make a competative game of it at the team who have waited 58 years to be disappointed again.
And that Wigan and Stains provide another classic.

We certainly were better in the forwards and we certainly were in your faces in defence.

You seem to think that only Wigan's defence and pressure is capable of forcing errors. It's a bizarre viewpoint, but fair enough.

BTW...to all you Saints fans arguing otherwise, maybe you should check out your own coaches appraisal of last night's game in the post match interviews. Just a thought.

Sorry mate, you're still not making any sense. I haven't posted any excuses for any team's performances, merely pointed out that some Wigan fans cannot accept they are not always the best.

So little interest that you're on here the very next day calling us arrogant, deluded, etc.

I'm guessing the only reason it took you this long is because you had to wait until today to get on the office computer.