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| Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "It is just a cumulative total that is given though not a breakdown of actual tickets sold so it is misleading.'"
Course it is the number of tickets sold!! Do you really think if i ran out and in 50 times that would be added to the total!!! 
How many do we take to Quins each year? Alot granted probably 3-5 thousand every time but never 10-12 thousand (for a normal league fixture) and yet everyone comes back saying what a great weekend?????
Those that went will agree we me when they say Wigan must have had atleast 4500 there on Sat night??? |
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| Quote: -Tracie- "Course it is the number of tickets sold!! Do you really think if i ran out and in 50 times that would be added to the total!!! ![]()
Erm.. Exactly my point, for the actual total, the people who bought two-day tickets would be counted as one ticket. Of course I wasn't suggesting that leaving and re-entering the ground would add to the total!
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| Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "Erm.. Exactly my point, for the actual total, the people who bought two-day tickets would be counted as one ticket. Of course I wasn't suggesting that leaving and re-entering the ground would add to the total!'"
It would count as 2, when you went in both days it would record your entrance. |
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| Quote: -Tracie- "Your right - what do those that want to scrap it gain?? Nothing
If you don't like it don't go - as many of you proved. Those of us that do go (and will continue) have a great weekend. Saying that I know of atleast 2 people who whine and whine about it but still went and then whined and whined when they come home and think it should be scrapped - if you don't like it don'[t go!!!! ![]()
The point being for those who think that because they had a great weekend so it should continue, is that it's suppose to be a showcase for the sport, not simply another mickey-up for the fans. I enjoy going to Quins but I wouldn't want it to be held-up as a showcase for the sport. I've enjoyed myself at MM in the past but I can still see what an embarrassment it is in it's current form. If RL fans can't be bothered to attend in the numbers they usually do, why should anyone else?
Perception is everything to those who we want to attract in terms of other fans and sponsors and all they'll have seen is red and green empty seat, not a good look.
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| Quote: Odemwingie "So why are people expecting there to be a huge crowd? Why are people not happy with 60k? I think it is pretty reasonable. The RFL make a load of money and RL fans have a great time.'"
As others have pointed out its not 60K and the reason it is a failure is because it fails to do what it was supposed to which is be a showcase event that broadens the interest in the sport.
It now attracts little to no attention in the media and looks anything but a showcase event on TV. As I said its just another away game for all the existing fans and this is reflected in the crowd figures.
In my opinion the RFL moved it to the first game of the season to try and tap into the desire of fans starved of their RL fix to get back to supporting their teams and I think this shows they know they have a problem. Given W/L/A figures that didn't work did it so what will they do next to try and drum up real support for the event? Or will they stick their heads in the sand and stubbornly keep banging on abut what a great success it is despite it looking anything but to anyone who turns the TV on to watch? |
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| Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "Erm.. Exactly my point, for the actual total, the people who bought two-day tickets would be counted as one ticket. Of course I wasn't suggesting that leaving and re-entering the ground would add to the total!'"
ok sorry thought you were being rather stoooopid!!! lol
sorry 
It's ok for the gin dodderers at RL HQ. They don't need to worry about such things. |
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opening up with the ferocious derby steeped in tradition that is Wire/Hudds another masterstroke
I would have gone
Leeds/bulls
2 big teams, proper derby to open up
Crusaders/salford
Follow up with the 'local' team
Cas/trinity
wire Hudds
Sunday
Start of with a passionate
hull derby
Quins v cats
The 'filler'
Finish off with biggest Derby
Wigan/saints
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| Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "I think people need to lift the wool over their eyes and realise that just because they had a good day/weekend doesn't mean that in its current form the magic weekend can be classed as a success. During some of the less glamorous games the attendances were shocking! no two ways about it. Even the bigger games weren't exactly huge. There are definitely ways to improve on the current format to make what is a decent concept an actual success. I dont think playing in front of a quarter full stadium can ever be classed as successful, be it a regular league match, a special format such as the magic or a cup final.'"
So, using the same logic, playing the CC final at Wembley for the first ten years in a half empty stadium must also be classed as a failure in your eyes. |
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| Quote: nohalfbacks "So, using the same logic, playing the CC final at Wembley for the first ten years in a half empty stadium must also be classed as a failure in your eyes.'"
Stop banging on about 80 years ago! Like I have already said, there is clearly no talking to some people because they have just been to Cardiff and had a good weekend, which I can fully appreciate. I didnt go this year but have been to previous ones and enjoyed it. This doesnt automatically mean it has worked, or certainly not worked as well as it could do. At the moment the RFL have landmark events such as the GF and CCF which attract the supporters, now in 2011, and one event which doesnt, and means the biggest derby games in British rugby league are played in front of a quarter full stadium. |
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