still gutted you got put in your place by me and stone cold on the Leeds board

I love you self righteous john

Why don't you try answering his charges?

because there is no discussion or reasoning with him, he's so concerned with not giving an inch, It turns into some long boring face off, he's far more interested in the battle regardless of the topic, you could say a number of things and he just rolls out his dull formulated generic statements, that don't mean anything. it's like talking to a politician.

it's all about the vendetta and oneupmanship, there are a few like this on rlfans. personally I just laugh at em

Tell us

are you the pot or kettle ?

Do you really think Brown is better 6 than Sam Tomkins and McGuire is a better 7 than Eastmond?

both

All that rhetoric aside, what he seems to be saying is that you:

a) Have accused Wigan fans of crowing before the dawn, and have then gone on to do it yourself (in the same post).

b) Have accused Wigan fans of thinking that they've already won the treble, with no evidence to support this whatsoever.

c) Have scoffed at suggestions that Bluey has lost the changing room at Leeds, even though other Leeds fans are apparently concerned that he has.

These seem to be pretty specific charges. I'm not sure "laughing at 'em" is the best way to respond. Why not just give some answers?

He posts more crap than anybody ive ever seen!

Yes, I really like Brown. I'd have him at Leeds personally. I also don't believe Eastmond is a 7. He's a ball running 6. There's not much in the halfs ATM though. We have a good 5 or 6.

Presumably after McGuire's defensive show last night you're at least having second thoughts about that selection?

Not at all. He's been very good in general over the past 2 years defensivley.

If you watched tonights game you will also have noticed we looked the most dangerous we have all season when he was at 7. As soon as Burrow came on we broke down again on too many occasions.

I started a thread on ss about McGuire being better than Burrow at 7 and our resident statto tvoc posted Leeds results with him there.

Anyway a basic breakdown is: P-22 W-19 D-1 L-2

not a bad rate is it.

Tompkins is a 6. Where have I said McGuire is a quality 6. My point was all about him playing much better at 7.

Hey this is a bit scary, but I think that's now two things Saints and Wigan fans can agree on (the other being which is the biggest and best derby in RL) - Tomkins and Eastmond MUST be the half-back pairing for England.

Can't wait to see them develop a partnership at international level and take on the Aussies and Kiwis. Two very exciting players with different styles and both still with their best rugby ahead of them.