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Quote: moto748 "Do fans and the GBP have a right to know exactly what ZH did or didn't do? So we can all get up on our hind legs and pontificate about whether sacking him is justified or not?

I'd say no. Matty Peet is right to draw a line under it, I think. Which, of course, is as much for Zak's benefit as anyone else's.'"

Yeah fair point. Not a lot of point getting into rumours. I suppose I wanted to stick up a bit for Zak as I’m a dad with young kids too, and I work away fair bit as-well….

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Quote: Shabino "I don’t know, but it’s nothing illegal or dangerous, so I’m wondering too why the sacking?'"


Wigan obviously have enough reason to sack Hardaker, otherwise his agent and solicitor would be after Wigan for unfair dismissal. They will have gone through all the legal procedures no doubt.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Wigan obviously have enough reason to sack Hardaker, otherwise his agent and solicitor would be after Wigan for unfair dismissal. They will have gone through all the legal procedures no doubt.'"

I think he wanted out too though and maybe it was a mutual decision, more than a sacking …..

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Quote: Shabino "I think he wanted out too though and maybe it was a mutual decision, more than a sacking …..'"


I’m starting to think you are his mum.

He has been sacked.

Read the press releases and quotes from Peet. HR, club directors and the owner followed due process to ensure there was no legal comeback.

His actions were in breach of club standards and he was sacked.

Just because he is more than likely going to Leeds for half a season you need to stop trying to put a rose tinted slant on it.

For what it’s worth I didn’t want Zak at Wigan to start with however he got his head down and proved me wrong, kept his nose clean, excuse the reference, and once up to speed was a very good player.

It wasn’t long till the cracks started showing though the same issues started to creep in off the field and his antics started off the field.

Wigan reacted by trying to take him out of his negative environment and he seemed to settle again….but once again not for long.

It all started to go wrong again when he started heading home more and whilst his behaviour off the field away from rugby seemed more settled the cracks started showing again with talk of him being homesick and the commute, ironic given he is in talks with Leigh because they are offering him silly money.

The decline started when he went public to the press with his thoughts about being the best fullback in England, and getting totally owned by Tomkins.

On field performances started to fall away, and once again the moaning about the commute became more vocal.

His performance after the Wakefield game was I’m told totally embarrassing. Threw his toys out the pram because he was expected to get on the bus with the group back to Wigan.

He is an undoubted talent and I’m sure in the short term wherever he turns up at he will have a good impact on the team, it won’t be long though till the cracks start to show.

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Quote: jonh "I’m starting to think you are his mum.

He has been sacked.

Read the press releases and quotes from Peet. HR, club directors and the owner followed due process to ensure there was no legal comeback.

His actions were in breach of club standards and he was sacked.

Just because he is more than likely going to Leeds for half a season you need to stop trying to put a rose tinted slant on it.

For what it’s worth I didn’t want Zak at Wigan to start with however he got his head down and proved me wrong, kept his nose clean, excuse the reference, and once up to speed was a very good player.

It wasn’t long till the cracks started showing though the same issues started to creep in off the field and his antics started off the field.

Wigan reacted by trying to take him out of his negative environment and he seemed to settle again….but once again not for long.

It all started to go wrong again when he started heading home more and whilst his behaviour off the field away from rugby seemed more settled the cracks started showing again with talk of him being homesick and the commute, ironic given he is in talks with Leigh because they are offering him silly money.

The decline started when he went public to the press with his thoughts about being the best fullback in England, and getting totally owned by Tomkins.

On field performances started to fall away, and once again the moaning about the commute became more vocal.

His performance after the Wakefield game was I’m told totally embarrassing. Threw his toys out the pram because he was expected to get on the bus with the group back to Wigan.

He is an undoubted talent and I’m sure in the short term wherever he turns up at he will have a good impact on the team, it won’t be long though till the cracks start to show.'"


Yeah fair play. Now that you’ve explained it so well, a parting of ways Is completely for the best.
Fwiw most Leeds fans I know don’t what him back. I do have Rose Tinted specs yes. To give some perspective he’s the only Leeds player to have won MOS since Iestyn Harris.
Think of all the great players we’ve had since then. He’s a very very special RL player……

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Quote: Shabino "Yeah fair play. Now that you’ve explained it so well, a parting of ways Is completely for the best.
Fwiw most Leeds fans I know don’t what him back. I do have Rose Tinted specs yes. To give some perspective he’s the only Leeds player to have won MOS since Iestyn Harris.
Think of all the great players we’ve had since then. He’s a very very special RL player……'"


‘Was’ special. He’s nothing of the sort any more. Time and behaviour have caught him up.

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Quote: Shabino "He was a very very special RL player……'"

Correction.

Was a great player 5 years ago.

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Quote: NSW "Correction.
Was a great player 5 years ago.'"


He did a good job for you guys didn’t he? Didn’t he win player of season. With the talent you have that takes some doing…….

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Quote: Shabino "He did a good job for you guys didn’t he? Didn’t he win player of season. With the talent you have that takes some doing…….'"


He was a good solid defensive centre for a couple of years and a good fullback in his first season. He also seemed to be a real leader when we lacked in that department when he moved to centre.

He never hit the heights he did at Cas with Wigan but I though his move to centre initially went well, dropped off though gradually.

The player alongside Gale at Cas was very special though, I know of hope he ends up with Gale again as they brought out the best in each other and were fantastic to watch.

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Quote: jonh "He was a good solid defensive centre for a couple of years and a good fullback in his first season.

He never hit the heights he did at Cas with Wigan but I though his move to centre initially went well, dropped off though gradually.

The player alongside Gale at Cas was very special though.'"

You also need to look at his injury record. Doesn’t miss many does he?

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Quote: Shabino "You also need to look at his injury record. Doesn’t miss many does he?'"


He missed 1/3rd of last season through injury/suspension.

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Quote: Wigg'n "He missed 1/3rd of last season through injury/suspension.'"

That would be like Mr consistent for our recent standards. And before that hardly missed a game for you!

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I've never known a player with as many people interested to know what's going on in his life as Zak Hardaker. Ever since he's been at Wigan, we've had people on here querying every aspect of his relationship with the club, following his every movement on an AA map, talking as if they know stuff (while in truth trying to ferret out more), defending him one minute, criticising him the next, expressing hope that he's got himself sorted while in truth hoping he's about to foul up again.

Why the obsessive interest?

He's no superstar. He's just a bloke who plays rugby. To a reasonably decent level, but not as well as he used to.

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Quote: Cruncher "I've never known a player with as many people interested to know what's going on in his life as Zak Hardaker. Ever since he's been at Wigan, we've had people on here querying every aspect of his relationship with the club, following his every movement on an AA map, talking as if they know stuff (while in truth trying to ferret out more), defending him one minute, criticising him the next, expressing hope that he's got himself sorted while in truth hoping he's about to foul up again.

Why the obsessive interest?

He's no superstar. He's just a bloke who plays rugby. To a reasonably decent level, but not as well as he used to.'"


He’s still a superstar over this way bud. We remember him as Me MOS, he also should have won MOS at Cas instead of Gale….
He’s a very marketable player too bizarrely. Got that x-factor and still only 30!

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Quote: Shabino "He did a good job for you guys didn’t he? Didn’t he win player of season. With the talent you have that takes some doing…….'"


He’s a good centre and a very good fullback.

Nothing more, nothing less. There are many levels above him at both centre and fullback as you can see with Field.

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