Anyone else noticed how traffic flows freely if the traffic lights are broke

I have a mate who works in a highways (not in wigan)... they get paid thousands to sit in a room and mess around with the layout of a juntion. They should just keep it as simple as possible.

Giant Scalextric cross-over for adults, it could only happen in Wiggin.

Wigan is awful for driving around. I was once in a traffic jam from Caroline Street (not that that is unusual) all the way to Abraham Guest school. The cause of the problem, a lollypop lady.

The bus garage is closing at the end of next week & Wigan MBC take over the site week commencing Mon 4th July.

I travel to work through the Saddle from Ashton & must admit that the traffic congestion on approach to the Saddle has improved since the road remodelling but it will be interesting to see what it's like on a match day when the majority of traffic needs to turn left towards the DW ??

Useless, try crossing 2 lanes of flowing traffic in a van which has obscured visibility due to it being a van. It really is a case of left indicator on turn and hope for the best & I WORK FOR THE USELESS WMBC.

I've noticed that myself... However, I'm not convinced that it's because of the new layout. I think it's partly down to the fact that most people are avoiding it and going down Poolstock lane instead, as that route has gone noticeably busier.

I've been wondering if anyone else has noticed this? I keep wondering if it's going to change but when you're coming along Warrington Road and heading to the cinema, it doesn't seem to make sense to have to try and barge into the left lane now or just stop and wait for someone to let you in. If there's no traffic from Pem it's fine but otherwise it's a nightmare.

I was very sceptical about the work being done at the Saddle but I've found that the traffic now flows much, much better towards Wigan whereas normally you'd be crawling from Goose Green onwards. The lane switching to go to Robin Park is indeed a pain though.

Not a clue why they want to build that new road through the bus depot.

Bottleneck Bridge has a load of land at the side of it, which is simply grassed over. It can't be THAT hard to close the railway line for six months whilst they demolish that bridge and build a wider one. There's more than enough room to accommodate two lanes each way.

And whilst they're at it, they need to reinstate both lanes between Seven Stars and Gordon Ford, and on Pottery Road.

I drive through Saddle every morning. The new layout is terrible. I believe that there will be loads of accidents when people try to cut across to turn left towards DW / Beech Hill.

I live near Saddle and its a major pain in the backside. I came from up Ashton way and I have to turn just after the Queen's Arm's pub, first time I came down I missed the turning due to not knowing the layout of the road. It's useless!

So, we've had a problem at Saddle for about 100 years.

We've also had a Labour MP and Labour dominated council for the same amount of time.

It must be the fault of the Tories then .........

So, you're one of the few in Wigan hey Abe ?

Deinetly. 100 years ago we had a Tory MP so it must have been his fault!