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Quote: W!64N_ENTHUSI45T "He does have that confidence to stand up to players. Im sure in one of his first games he was having a go at Peacock for trying to slow the play the ball down and shoved him away. Brave to do that with such a great player like Peacock'"


Thats partly because Sam knows our whole pack, especially his Brother would be straight over if anything started.

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Is it a case of greed? Or is it it more a case of Sam running a long the face of the opposition defense with no other Wigan players offering themselves up to run off him, forcing him to go it alone.

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "Is it a case of greed? Or is it it more a case of Sam running a long the face of the opposition defense with no other Wigan players offering themselves up to run off him, forcing him to go it alone.'"


This is probably more accurate. Back rowers running angles would suit Sam more, causes confusion with the opposition defence meaning either a well timed pass or a widened gap for him to duck through and break clear.

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What's the rumpus, Tom? [quote="Pemps":1dso5atj]I can't confirm Bennett's exact words but I believe they were along the lines of "Strewth Ian, I wouldn't touch him with yours. He's a flammin' Gala". [/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="Wigan Peer":1dso5atj]I keep my bin under 30mph to avoid fines... :CURTAIN:[/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="MattyB":1dso5atj]you cant tell me they are all busting for a turd. [/quote:1dso5atj] Please see for me if she's wearing a coat so warm To keep her from the howlin' winds.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44075.jpg



Quote: P4UL_W1G4N "It will be fans like yourself that will do that when you fail to give him criticism... Believe me.

It will be interesting to see when Sam has a bad game how people will react
That the thing though, there are a lot of so-called fans who have ruined players on here by their constant criticism.

Very, very rarely do I rip into players on here after a poor performance. IMO if a player shows effort and desire then that is all we can ask for. Sometimes it will come off for them and sometimes it will not.

Of course he will have a bad game, in fact I expect him to have a few. It’s all part of the learning curve. But mark my words, I will not be joining in on any player slating unless it lack of effort as opposed to things not clicking for him.

And what’s all this "believe me" rubbish. Are you involved in SL coaching? Or are you (like me) just a fan? If it is the latter then you are no more qualified to speak than any other tom, dick or harry on here.

Look I aint trying to start a fight, I am just sick to death of the constant criticism of players on this site

as a previous poster has already said, why cant we be optomistic for a change??

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Quote: Odemwingie "Picking the right option only comes with experience because he will practice making those situational choices and he will get them right. Next season I am confident he can be a stand out player in the league.

Sam Tomkins will win young player of the year.'"


Agreed.

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I thought this was a rugby league forum? It's inevitable that people are going to discuss a players' strengths and weaknesses.

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What's the rumpus, Tom? [quote="Pemps":1dso5atj]I can't confirm Bennett's exact words but I believe they were along the lines of "Strewth Ian, I wouldn't touch him with yours. He's a flammin' Gala". [/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="Wigan Peer":1dso5atj]I keep my bin under 30mph to avoid fines... :CURTAIN:[/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="MattyB":1dso5atj]you cant tell me they are all busting for a turd. [/quote:1dso5atj] Please see for me if she's wearing a coat so warm To keep her from the howlin' winds.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44075.jpg



Quote: P4UL_W1G4N "I thought this was a rugby league forum? It's inevitable that people are going to discuss a players' strengths and weaknesses.'"


Don’t be Facetious, of course you are allowed to air you views, just don’t get the hump when someone disagrees with you.

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He'll learn all the moves, and he'll learn the art of not being predictable. That's what makes him such an exciting player. I hesitate from using the term 'prospect' as he's already proved that.

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Sam is still finding his feet in the big time, I personally wouldn`t say he is greedy he likes to run with the ball you cannot knock him for that.

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Quote: P4UL_W1G4N "Does anyone else think Sam Tomkins is a bit too ball greedy? I've watched his game closely and there have been plenty of times when he could have passed the ball yet chose to go alone and does not get anywhere... He did it against Leeds and ran straight into Peacock, and had he passed we'd of probably scored.

I know this post is going to get people saying, 'I think it's great he chooses to go on his own, it shows his determination,' or, 'we need a 6 who's willing to attack the line' - Yeah, fair enough, but a lot of the time, had Sam passed, the outcome would have been different.


You're right. I think it's great that he goes on his own sometimes.

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Considering how good is he is with ball in hand, it hardly matters.

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Quote: piemandan "Considering how good is he is with ball in hand, it hardly matters.'"


It makes a change for a Wigan half back to run at the line regulary then just catch and pass ...al al T Smith

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I despair, I really do. We've got a young lad who is as big a talent as we've had in years with the potential to become a Wigan RL legend in time and we have people picking holes in his game at the age of 20.

Perhaps you think Christ could have fed 6,000 if he'd sliced the bread a bit thinner!

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Quote: Rubber Buccaneer "Perhaps you think Christ could have fed 6,000 if he'd sliced the bread a bit thinner!'"


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Quote: P4UL_W1G4N "Does anyone else think Sam Tomkins is a bit too ball greedy? I've watched his game closely and there have been plenty of times when he could have passed the ball yet chose to go alone and does not get anywhere... He did it against Leeds and ran straight into Peacock, and had he passed we'd of probably scored.

I know this post is going to get people saying, 'I think it's great he chooses to go on his own, it shows his determination,' or, 'we need a 6 who's willing to attack the line' - Yeah, fair enough, but a lot of the time, had Sam passed, the outcome would have been different.


Sorry Paul but you definitely suffers from the very English malady -Tall Poppy Syndrome. icon_sad.gif

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