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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "It's not impossible. it's just very hard (and easier via playing a match so why would you?)
However it IS possible.'"
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| Quote: mooster "Boxing is very hard work i remember my first time sparing with the bag i did 10 x 2minute rounds with a 45 second break. couldnt move my arms for nearly a week after and i would have classed myself as fit at the time'"
how does match fitness for boxing and rugby compare to match fitness for other sports?
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "It's not impossible. it's just very hard (and easier via playing a match so why would you?)
However it IS possible.'"
Sorry Brett you are wrong, you can never exactly simulate the demands of a game, you will get close and we get closer every year as research progresses but you will never nail it, it is what makes training training and playing playing. |
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| Quote: "Each person regardless of if you play sport or not has physical limits, related to genetic make up (ie different percentages of red and white (type I and II) muscle fibres while you can condition the body to make the best of what they have there is a natural limit. Red (or slow twitch) muscle fibres work the anearobic system, white (type I fact twitch) the power system no matter how you train them you at the end of the day still only have what you have and this can be the deciding factor in if you are going to be a success at any physical event long before you ever pick up a ball.
Type II fibres can be trained and this could help if a person is very powerfull but gassed too soon but again there are a limit to these fibres.
In simple terms Feka for example will have a natural high percentage of fact twitch fibres, whereas a player with high endurance who can run all day Sean Long for example will have a higher natural percentage of red twitch fibres.
Training can only do so much everyone has individual limits and recovery rates which will account for the variation, as will the game plan, ie a coach sending a player out with a high intensity work load for 10 mins then bringing them off for a rest, a player like this is always going to look gassed as they are putting in a more intense effort.'"
I guess thats a good point, i never really thought of type 1, type 2 fibers being invloved in aerobic fitness.
I guess thats why they say cant make a sprinter, that you are born one! |
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| Quote: wigan pie man "how does match fitness for boxing and rugby compare to match fitness for other sports?
football? cricket ? snooker ? darts ![]()
If you are ever to put together a conditioning routine you have to break each sport down to it bare bones and analyse every movement and physical demand.
It is impossible to compare match fitness for different sports as match fitness is sports specific.
In simple terms rugby league is a power endurance sport.
football for example a more aerobic dominant sport still requiring power.
Sport specificity and individual players actions and style within the game is the key difference between sports.
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| Quote: Sharpy_4a "I guess thats a good point, i never really thought of type 1, type 2 fibers being invloved in aerobic fitness.
I guess thats why they say cant make a sprinter, that you are born one!'"
Exactly you can have the best training in the world but if you lack the genetic gifts you are only going to get as fast as your limitations allow regardless of how hard or well you train. |
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| Quote: jonh "Sorry Brett you are wrong, you can never exactly simulate the demands of a game, you will get close and we get closer every year as research progresses but you will never nail it, it is what makes training training and playing playing.'"
in that case then , one day we will get to the stage where you can get match fit in a gym.
all it takes is a few simulators to hit the body as if its being tackled, and other similar machines.
they said we would never make a nuclear weapon at one time as well.
as science progresses, so does progress.........or summat.
only thing i can think of against my own theory is that as we progress, the game will progress (as its been doing) and players will get fitter and need to be more match fit to cope, thereby always keeping one step in front of scientific advances. |
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| Quote: jonh "Sorry Brett you are wrong, you can never exactly simulate the demands of a game, you will get close and we get closer every year as research progresses but you will never nail it, it is what makes training training and playing playing.'"
Your body doesn't know you are playing RL.
If you simulate everything then you will become "match fit".
However, as I have said, given it's much easier to get 95% there and finish the last 5% off by actually playing the game, why would you? |
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| Quote: "how does match fitness for boxing and rugby compare to match fitness for other sports?
football? cricket ? snooker ? darts '"
It doesnt carry over very well from sport to sport, when lance armstrong completed the new york marathon, he said it was the hardest thing he had ever done! |
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| Quote: wigan pie man "how does match fitness for boxing and rugby compare to match fitness for other sports?
football? cricket ? snooker ? darts ![]()
You ever kisssed a Girl son? 
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| Quote: Pemps "Not really sports are they. More a pastime along with dominos and fishing.'"
they both come on sky SPORTS......along with fishing, but not dominoes.
i do agree somewhat Pemps....there are some borderline sports imo...the above, curling, golf, speed walking, normal walking .......question is..where do you draw the line between sport and pastime?
buts thats maybe for another thread (close season?). |
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| Quote: jonh "Exactly you can have the best training in the world but if you lack the genetic gifts you are only going to get as fast as your limitations allow regardless of how hard or well you train.'"
left you a PM jonh. |
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| Quote: Jukesays "You ever kisssed a Girl son? ![]()
Are you trying to say that there's another activity other than RL that involves a low intensity build up followed by periods of intermittent endurance and recovery, rapidly developing into high intensity sessions until the participant peaks just when it matters?
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "Your body doesn't know you are playing RL.
If you simulate everything then you will become "match fit".
However, as I have said, given it's much easier to get 95% there and finish the last 5% off by actually playing the game, why would you?'"
If you simulate everything you will be playing the sport. |
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