If this is you Dave, chances are he saw you and probably thought you were going to lay him out to further your point

Is this a thread about the dirty play from a thug or a dick measuring contest with the wire trolls? Unfortunately it looks like the later, again.

The more I watch it the more I think Raynor went in to knock the ball out of Sams grip but through crap reflexes and poor ability failed miserabily on both counts. He got sent off,he'll get a 2 or 3 game ban and Sam will be right for next week, move on. As for the scouse overspill scum from wireland let them enjoy their childish fun at a young lads pain, it just enforces the point that they are the scum of rugby league,its what I expect. He who laughs last,laughs longest.

No i have an opinion, and that seems to have frustrated you, along with the fact that i had done what you asked of me about 3 pages before you slagged me off for not doing it, so you're getting all uppity and losing your cool because you looked like a tit.

it was about the poor challenge from raynor until Electric Gliding warrior decided to turn it into a dick measuring contest by getting at a wire posters DP. Simple as.

No one cares. Constant stream of wires looking for nothing more than argument is getting tedious.

Not from me, i came on to chat about the incident and people would rather have a go because i'm from the warrington board. No wonder people hate coming on here.

WTF is going on with these threads , they just end up of the topic with constant bull spouting at each other with wire fans if i was the mods i start locking every my dads bigger than your dad thread that breaks out

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Just watched the game and before making my comment I would make two points
1 I'm pretty much neutral in that I prefer watching Wigan to Bradford but I would rather meet Bradford in the next round
2 I think Raynor definitely deserved sending off
My main point is that as far as the reaction Tomkins received from the Bradford fans he deserved everything he got. Anyone who has heard the story of the little boy who cried wolf should be able to see the point. I don't doubt that in this instance he was seriously hurt but I (and presumably anyone who watches RL regularly) have seen him go down as if he's been shot so often that it's impossible to tell the difference without the benefit of TV replays. I have said before that he has the potential to be one of the greats but until he learns to play the game fairly he never will be and as long as he continues to cheat - and that's what it is he will never have any respect beyond the DW

Nobody deserves to get knocked cold because they 'cheat' - all players do it in every game at some point or other. If Tomkins 'cheats' and doesn't get caught then sobeit. He still deserves protection from thuggery. I'm in agreement with Nathan Brown to a degree - not about retribution but for greater protection for playmakers generally.

I don't have a huge issue with fans at a game booing an opponent immediately after an incident, even if they are prone, as there's a lot of heat of the moment emotion at games. I would be appalled if booing etc continues after its clear to everyone that the player is/could be seriously hurt (e.g. if a stretcher comes out). The worst behaviour is being glad of opponents injuries/hoping to see someone get hurt 'in cold blood'. That is pathetic.

As an aside, if a player gets KO'd (as in actually unconscious, even if for a few seconds), are they allowed back on the field in the same game? FWIW I don't think they should be, regardless of how clear headed they may appear.

It was amusing that the Bradford fans felt Raynor deserved applause when he left the field. God knows why. I'd be fuming if that was a Wigan player.

I agree with you on your last point though. Tbh, you'd hope the medical staff could judge whether they are fit or not to play again.

Totally agree I in no way condone the challenge I just think that the reaction of the fans was totally understandable

Thing is he "cries wolf" by pretending to have someone elses arm or whatever stuck in pointing out that they were trying to steal the ball illegally! He does not pretend to be knocked out and how you could suggest this is ridiculous he gets hit high and late all the time and hes usually up and to the ball quicker than the guy who hits him to see him stay down like that is only proof that he was truly injured he does not cry wolf. Well certainly I've never seen it.