Grimmy you mention in point 5 regarding our structure when attacking in the Cas 20, I have this feeling that Wigan are maybe letting this obsession with the obstruction rule by the match officials get to them.
The use of multiple dummy runners as been Wigan's main line of attack even to the extent of getting a lot of criticism for having no plan B , maybe Wigan are finding it very hard to adjust to finding another line of attack.

I would just like to say a big THANK YOU! To all the fans coming onto our board and offering sympathy for our loss against Castleford... Feel the love..

Like this analysis a lot. In addition, we have got a very long way on teamwork, commitment and fitness, but we do not have a real game breaking player in the 17 that played (lots of potential, though). I didn't see any spark of imagination or even a plan B. Like someone said, we could have played on for a few hours and still not got over the Cas try line.

I found the substitutions very strange.
Hampshire was brought on too late in the game. With 65 mins gone we had only used four interchanges. Then we introduced Hampshire and Hughes. The only reason I can think is that Wane wanted to keep some fresh legs for late in the game as the weather and pitch would make it very tiring.

What killed us was the needless penalty that Hughes gave away when Cas were struggling to get out of their own quarter. He'd just been told by the referee on the previous tackle to get away, then went and did it again. I do think had that not happened Cas would have cracked again and we would have gone on to win the game.

However to be fair the second Cas try deserved to win the game, it was a superb piece of centre play and a great catch from behind his back by the winger.

It was noticeable how the players seemed to have accepted defeat by the time Hampshire came on. He looked quick but by that time he was running with no support so was never going to make something happen.
On a second point by the end only Gelling, of the starting team, seemed to have any running left in him. As a result he was playing acting half back for much of the last quarter with no structured attack running off him.

The Castleford player blatantly trapped his arm - Hughes tried to free it several times, but to no avail.

They scored two tries on the back of dodgy penalties - I thought Silverwood and his assistants (at least I assumed he had assistants, they didn't f'ing see anything - again) had an absolute shocker.

We were awful, full credit to Castleford for playing to the ref's whistle, but he let them get away with murder. Don't think they were onside once yesterday.

I thought Williams had a bad game until he moved to Hooker.

I thought Hampshire tried to be a hero and go on his own far too much when he came on.

Aye, our two late subs both gave up holding down penalties which led to tries. I know Hughes and Hampshire are young lads but at the same time I bet they've both been playing the game at least 10 years at some level. You would think they would both have the sense not to risk penalties late on in an energy sapping game when you're on the wrong end of the scoreline. Like you say, if Hughes doesn't give a penalty I think we would have won. If Hampshire didn't give away his penalty we would have been in with half a chance as well. All we had to do was see out the set of six (they weren't particularly getting on top of us at that point) and get the ball back. Those two penalties gave up time, field position and more possession - everything we needed.

I think it's a poor excuse if that is the reason. Surely they don't attack the 20 that way in training, they certainly don't in the warm up!

It was a lack of organisation and too many forwards stood with hands on their hips watching their team mate taking it up on his own and getting tackled by 4 blokes that scuppered us. Nothing to do with obstruction

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but O'Loughlin was absolutely shattered today - why was he kept on the field?

Clearly miles away from match fitness.

Sorry to be a party pooper but I'm on Wane's side all the way.
What ab out the BLATANT lying on? Ball strip over the line..PENALTY TRY end of. First time we lie on..Penalty.
Hudds got away with it , and it was noted and used and Cas won. We played crap but still should have won, all hail the new "flexible" rules.

Ball steal over the line hasn't been a penalty try for six years



We were outcoached and outplayed and should be able to admit that without trying to blame the ref.