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| Quote: Fujiman "Was watching SSN last night and they had a piece on Sarries fire walking at their ground. Interviewing players etc. A nothing piece but they were on nevertheless. Cant remember seeing Wigan on for something so trivial. We have a lot to learn from them re marketing'"
I think that says a lot more about the media's bias towards RU than it does about Saracens marketing department.
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| It's also geography - TV crews don't like travelling outside the M25...
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| We will be on tv alot more when everything is moved up to Salford (dont think Sky have anything to do with that but BBC and ITV are I believe)
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| Quote: Odem "FOR A ONE OFF GAME. Like 'The big one'. They must be doing something right to get over 40,000 people to a single game. Maybe we can use some of their techniques to sell-out the big one every single time (even if it is still in Wigan).'"
Well according to their fans the club doesn't make any money from Wembley due to having to give away loads of free tickets to get the crowd up, the Wembley crowds are decreasing anyway and it isn't translating into bigger crowds at their own home ground. So what is right about that? Whoi gives a toss if they can get 40K on if after having done it a few seasons it isn't translating into larger crowds and a bigger support fr them? As I said I think our way with the Big One is far better.
They are even taking a Heineken Cup game v Biaritz (spelling?) in South Africa of all places. That has gone down like a lead balloon as well.
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| article in today Yorkshire Post discussing proposals for hybrid games combining both sports. Rules been put together by Bob Dwyer and an ex league player.
Business plan for sell out exhibition matches between the best from both codes for revenue generating purposes.
Sarries v Wigan under such a format may well be a draw to many in both codes under hybrid rules.
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| Quote: DaveO "Well according to their fans the club doesn't make any money from Wembley due to having to give away loads of free tickets to get the crowd up, the Wembley crowds are decreasing anyway and it isn't translating into bigger crowds at their own home ground. So what is right about that? Whoi gives a toss if they can get 40K on if after having done it a few seasons it isn't translating into larger crowds and a bigger support fr them? As I said I think our way with the Big One is far better.
They are even taking a Heineken Cup game v Biaritz (spelling?) in South Africa of all places. That has gone down like a lead balloon as well.'"
Agreed, I'll say it again. Lets get tips on selling events like that out every time.
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| Quote: jonh "article in today Yorkshire Post discussing proposals for hybrid games combining both sports. Rules been put together by Bob Dwyer and an ex league player.
Business plan for sell out exhibition matches between the best from both codes for revenue generating purposes.
Sarries v Wigan under such a format may well be a draw to many in both codes under hybrid rules.'"
A world-wide hybrid game would be massive. Thats the only way the sport can rival football.
A one off game is pretty pointless really.
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| Didn't they have a hybrid game in Aus, some time last year?
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Quote: jonh "article in today Yorkshire Post discussing proposals for hybrid games combining both sports. Rules been put together by Bob Dwyer and an ex league player.
Business plan for sell out exhibition matches between the best from both codes for revenue generating purposes.
Sarries v Wigan under such a format may well be a draw to many in both codes under hybrid rules.'"
www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... _1_3954516
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Quote: jonh "article in today Yorkshire Post discussing proposals for hybrid games combining both sports. Rules been put together by Bob Dwyer and an ex league player.
Business plan for sell out exhibition matches between the best from both codes for revenue generating purposes.
Sarries v Wigan under such a format may well be a draw to many in both codes under hybrid rules.'"
www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... _1_3954516
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| This cross code/hybrid is something that we'd better be careful of.
If the vested interests want it they'll hype it to hell and back.
We might not fancy going to a game to see endless line outs, scrums, penalties and where the ref blows his whistle between 80-100 times in 80 mins but if the sellers of this garbage want it we'll never hear or see the end of it.
It was intersting to hear the CEO of the NZ RFU after their world cup say that it could be successful in England provided they changed the rules to make it more attractive and entertaining.
Well they can bloody well change the rules before Rugby League's name is linked to this rubbish. Why link up with a game that produces such turgid dross that Union plays?
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| Quote: Father Ted "This cross code/hybrid is something that we'd better be careful of.
If the vested interests want it they'll hype it to hell and back.
We might not fancy going to a game to see endless line outs, scrums, penalties and where the ref blows his whistle between 80-100 times in 80 mins but if the sellers of this garbage want it we'll never hear or see the end of it.
It was intersting to hear the CEO of the NZ RFU after their world cup say that it could be successful in England provided they changed the rules to make it more attractive and entertaining.
Well they can bloody well change the rules before Rugby League's name is linked to this rubbish. Why link up with a game that produces such turgid dross that Union plays?'"
I agree. A hybrid game could be the ultimate way to go for professional rugby. But I see a long road before we get to that. There is basically nothing at all wrong with RL - as both we and the Aussies see it. And an awful lot wrong with RU, to the point where a big percentage of us won't even watch it. And yet, somehow, I can't see the RU boys agreeing to a hybrid sport which isn't at least 75% their game.
Those who are pushing this bike, had better beware that, instead one code of rugby, it doesn't create three.
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| Quote: Father Ted "This cross code/hybrid is something that we'd better be careful of.
If the vested interests want it they'll hype it to hell and back.
We might not fancy going to a game to see endless line outs, scrums, penalties and where the ref blows his whistle between 80-100 times in 80 mins but if the sellers of this garbage want it we'll never hear or see the end of it.
It was intersting to hear the CEO of the NZ RFU after their world cup say that it could be successful in England provided they changed the rules to make it more attractive and entertaining.
Well they can bloody well change the rules before Rugby League's name is linked to this rubbish. Why link up with a game that produces such turgid dross that Union plays?'"
You have answered your own question:
a) It will make money.
b) It will attract huge publicity (and see 'a' above).
c) It will give the Union advocates a way out of defending their own sport and League's 'inferiority'. Ergo they will suport it and it will.....make money.
d) If it were to become mainstream then RL would effectively have to sign up to it or risk becoming 3rd in a 3 code world of rugby (in the UK at any rate).
This is a bigger danger to League than Union - don't underestimate it or that it will happen and not necessarily on League's terms.
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| Quote: Allez "
d) If it were to become mainstream then RL would effectively have to sign up to it or risk becoming 3rd in a 3 code world of rugby (in the UK at any rate).
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Not quite sure this would be the case. If RL didn't take part, it would either split Union into traditional & new (which would both be weak), or you'd be left with Union under new rules. Either way, RL would still exist in its own right, and I don't see any League fans deserting their clubs to follow either of these.
Agree with Cruncher / Father Ted - League has its own traditions, fan base & identity. We'd be bloody mad to get in bed with Union & weaken this.
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| Quote: Father Ted "
Well they can bloody well change the rules before Rugby League's name is linked to this rubbish. Why link up with a game that produces such turgid dross that Union plays?'"
Agree with that, but equally I don't want to watch Wigan play the same teams and visit the same grounds for the rest of my life.
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| Quote: Finfin "Agree with that, but equally I don't want to watch Wigan play the same teams and visit the same grounds for the rest of my life.'"
Christ talk about moan nothing is right now fans dont want to play same teams and visit same grounds which all other sports do. Never happy
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