Well seeing as less people go to the games than normal, even given how "special" we keep being told it is, it's pretty obvious it isn't working. If the RFL are happy with a few hundred thousand at the expense of how it makes the sport look to those people the event is meant to attract - it tells you everything you need to know about those at the RFL. The fact they still haven't killed this off in it's current form after 5 years of embarrassing PR, tells you that Nigel Wood shouldn't be running a bath, never mind a sporting body.

If people want to see how these types of events should be done - just look at how rah rah stage and market special club games.

Not that it matters, no. But seeing I've been to three of the other four I reckon I should be ok to have an opinion even by those s who think you need to be there to be able to comment.

True but that doesn't kill the concept, it is a fantastic one which I believe they should stick at to make a true success.

I'm all for doing something innovative, but in it's current form it just doesn't work for me. I cringe when I see the matches on TV and how empty the stadium looks for Wigan v Stains, Leeds v Bradford, Hull v Hull KR. 5 years of doing the same thing without having an kind of bounce in terms of PR or attendances shows it's time for a change.

Some have said that the reason to keep it going is how much people have enjoyed it who were there - I've enjoyed it when I was there, but I also enjoy when we go to Quins and there's 5,000 on.

Here lies the difference, all this debating if pointless. I believe it should be carried on for a few more years to try and make it a success. You don't. I can't see anything changing that unless it gets alot worse or alot better in the next few years.

I think people need to lift the wool over their eyes and realise that just because they had a good day/weekend doesn't mean that in its current form the magic weekend can be classed as a success. During some of the less glamorous games the attendances were shocking! no two ways about it. Even the bigger games weren't exactly huge. There are definitely ways to improve on the current format to make what is a decent concept an actual success. I dont think playing in front of a quarter full stadium can ever be classed as successful, be it a regular league match, a special format such as the magic or a cup final.

I'd say 5 years of flatlining is proof enough - you can apply the defibrillation for as long as you want but it won't change anything unless we try something new.

If it was showing any signs of an improvement, I might agree, but the fact is, it isn't.

Who cares if the stadium wasn't full, or if more people would have turned up overall for a regular round? Those arguments for scrapping it don't make any sense. It's an additional fixture, it's not in place of a home game for any club, nobody loses money from it and the RFL make a tidy income so where is the sense in scrapping it? If it didn't exist, all that would happen would be that the RFL would lose out on the money and the fans would lose out on a great weekend. It's a great event which is of no detriment to the game.

Course it is the number of tickets sold!! Do you really think if i ran out and in 50 times that would be added to the total!!!

How many do we take to Quins each year? Alot granted probably 3-5 thousand every time but never 10-12 thousand (for a normal league fixture) and yet everyone comes back saying what a great weekend?????

Those that went will agree we me when they say Wigan must have had atleast 4500 there on Sat night???

It would count as 2, when you went in both days it would record your entrance.

As others have pointed out its not 60K and the reason it is a failure is because it fails to do what it was supposed to which is be a showcase event that broadens the interest in the sport.

It now attracts little to no attention in the media and looks anything but a showcase event on TV. As I said its just another away game for all the existing fans and this is reflected in the crowd figures.

In my opinion the RFL moved it to the first game of the season to try and tap into the desire of fans starved of their RL fix to get back to supporting their teams and I think this shows they know they have a problem. Given W/L/A figures that didn't work did it so what will they do next to try and drum up real support for the event? Or will they stick their heads in the sand and stubbornly keep banging on abut what a great success it is despite it looking anything but to anyone who turns the TV on to watch?

ok sorry thought you were being rather stoooopid!!! lol

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