offloads are something i would expect from props and 2nd rows more than any one else.

The point is he's being creative

Not in the loose forward sense though. No-one's saying he's a bad player though, he's going to be quality, but as a 2nd row or prop. Langley is going well for Bradford, but he's a second rower playing at loose.

Since O'Loughlin cut the mistakes out of his game 2/3 years ago he has become one of the worlds best 13s.
If he was an Aussie he would play for Aus for sure.

Utter b0llox (again!). You were saying the same thing before they were even annonced as being possibilities to play. I know because I pulled you up for it on your own board!

You don't half talk crap! Why don't you learn a little humility? I said you were giving away too much sig material, and here you are...at it again! The worst of it is, I don't think you're actually trolling. You just can't get past the Rugby League world beginning and ending with Leeds. Not everything Leeds does/has/is is the best. Deal with it.

(or more acurately) Spout a lot of opinionated nonsense even though they readily admit they have no basis on which to make that opinion. I'll leave it to you to decide which camp you fall into..

I like O'Loughlin a lot and as a Leeds fan (from Leeds, don't let the av make you think different ) I can't agree he would walk into the Aus team. There is currently no player who would walk in. There are 2 or 3 that would push for the starters jersey but even Ellis who is probably Englands best player is about 3rd or 4th down the list. As for 13s Johnson is the best in SL. He is performing every week in a very poor Catalan team.

This is no anti Wigan post BTW. As much as I love Leeds I love the game more and never wear blinkers. I also believe even though Sinfield doesn't have the impact that Lockers does in the tackle he still averages around 40 a game which is decent going.

I agree with a poster who's name I can't remember though that it's hard to compare Sinfield and Lockers because even though they play the same position they play different roles for each team. Leeds basically have 2 SHs running off Sinfield. If I had my way though (which obviously I won't) I woould play Sinfield at 6 and McGuire at 7 because IMO McGuire would be the best 7 on the country. He is no longer a backer up player. He has carried Leeds for the majority of this season with Burrow playing his worst stuff on a long while. I think a Brown - McGuire partnership would be a good one in the 4N (can't wait fir the stick I get for that )

again, I don't have Leeds blinkers on. In fact, McGuire is the only Leeds player I would pick going on this seasons form So far.

Anyway all of that has nothing to do with Lee Smith whatsoever but as other people had drifted I thought I would up the drift a bit. I hope you value my opinion but if you don't, meh

good luck against Saints. I have a feeling you may struggle but I reckon it'll be a cracker. Just get the feeling your errors will cost you.

Brilliant, remind me again of the teams who have actually broken the cap?

There you go again, after our chat on the Leeds board regarding your double standards, you go and criticise a Wigan fan for crowing before the dawn, then go and do exactly the same thing in the next few lines of the same post.

I cannot take anything you say seriously, given "the majority of Wigan fans are celebrating winning the treble already"....according to your 1 mate who lives in the town, and then claim with the same confidence nobody in Leeds is panicking when i know a good few who feel Bluey has lost the dressing room.

You are a strange strange man.

Sadly, the one dark cloud on the otherwise bright and sunny horizon for the Wigan club is that when we do get back to winning ways the RL mafia will no doubt conspire to clip our wings again.

still gutted you got put in your place by me and stone cold on the Leeds board

I love you self righteous john

Why don't you try answering his charges?

because there is no discussion or reasoning with him, he's so concerned with not giving an inch, It turns into some long boring face off, he's far more interested in the battle regardless of the topic, you could say a number of things and he just rolls out his dull formulated generic statements, that don't mean anything. it's like talking to a politician.

it's all about the vendetta and oneupmanship, there are a few like this on rlfans. personally I just laugh at em

Tell us

are you the pot or kettle ?