Or 2020 when we finished League Leaders and were a bounce away from being champions?

I've said this loads, but it's not all about winning things. I love/loved our final wins under Wane, but there were a hell of a lot of games that weren't worth the entrance fee. I want to see the same commitment that lads have for finals on day 1 of the season & throughout the year too. For me, we had that under Madge (which I believe saw crowds increase?).

I have respect for IL, but I'm not overly sympathetic to the financial hardship he keeps talking about. It's pretty much a given that you don't buy a sports club to make money.

If the right player was available, I've no doubt that the club would pay a transfer fee to get them. We also allegedly offered Williams the highest ever contract at the club (and I'm glad they didn't get into a bidding war for his services). So, the club (i.e. Lenagan) will currently spend money if they believe it is in the right interests of the club and will generate further interest. They're spent money on marketing and the new badge etc (again something I agree with as they trying to generate interest from new and younger fans).

It's the other decisions I mentioned and no doubt others that have affected the club (on the pitch) and contributed to lower crowds over a number of seasons.

- Those who had the power to get the club a replacement for Hastings when it's been common knowledge for about a year he was leaving and still haven't?

We don't know how we will do without Hastings next season or indeed who will replace him

- Those who had the power to get a suitable replacement for Gildart and are giving us Thornley?

We have no idea how we will go next season

- Those who had the power to terminate Lam's contract and didn't?

Last 3 seasons, will give you that one

- Those who had the power on recruitment and retention and have given us the current squad?

We have no idea how the current squad will perform under a new coach

- Those who had the power to not have the disastrous policy or re-signing ex-players - none of whom were better the second time round, and most considerably worse?

Returning players off the top of my head:

Tommy - Won the WCC in 2017 and the league in 2018
Sam - Won the league in 2018
Bateman - Had one season back in a poorly coached team, too early to judge
Joel - Part of a league and WCC winning squad as well as 2 GF losing squads. Played 88 games over 4.5 seasons.
Budgie - Injury issues but scored 55 in 72 including in a WCC win.

We haven't won a major trophy in three years, - and consider this against the backdrop of how poor the competition has been for a number of years, so yes years in the making.

So they played in a winning team in a team sport but were poor signings?

Coached by an idiot.

Where did you think the squad would finish in 2019, 2020 and 2021?

Most fans had us as winners or finalists so how poor was our squad?

Or I suppose what I should ask.....................who would you have replaced in the squad and who with?

And who made the decision to keep the "idiot" for three years...........

I've given you that one. It was a cock up.

Your other points all relate to next season.

Where did you think we would finish BTW?

Ah, it was only a matter of time before the old straw man, what would you have done..........which of course no one could ever answer without knowing contract detailt etc

You really need to stop taking criticism of aspects of how the club has been / is being run as some kind of personal affront. If you're happy great, a lot of people aren't with some aspects, but yet again for you and some other posters everything is black and white and some people are moaning about everything (they're not) when they raise some issues.

But recruitment has been poor so you must have some ideas. Who would you have got rid of then.

Oh, and still waiting for you answer on where you thought the 2019, 2020 and 2021 squads would finish

Not all of my other points relate to next season, as I've had to mention more than once now.

A lot depends on what can be rectified from the lack of replacing Hastings fiasco in terms of where I think we'll finish. That will make or break our season in terms of being anywhere near competitive.

- Those who had the power to get the club a replacement for Hastings when it's been common knowledge for about a year he was leaving and still haven't?

Next season

- Those who had the power to get a suitable replacement for Gildart and are giving us Thornley?

Next season

- Those who had the power to terminate Lam's contract and didn't?

- Those who had the power on recruitment and retention and have given us the current squad?

Next season

- Those who had the power to not have the disastrous policy or re-signing ex-players - none of whom were better the second time round, and most considerably worse?

50/50 that one I guess so I will give you the benefit of the doubt


I'm also not asking where you think we will finish next season.....................where did you think we would finish in 2019-2021?