What does trophies won have to do with individual ability?

No we really won’t.

Oh yes you will.

If Wane was coach then yes but seeing as though your current coach isn’t very good and thinks Dan Sarginson is the best full back in the world, we definitely won’t.

Oh yes you will.

Saints aren’t as amazing as many people are making out.

Wigan aren’t as dreadful as many people are makkng out.

And as the season progresses, this will become more apparent.

Even though these teams are pointless and I very rarely do them, a Wigan/Saints XII would be

Coote
Makinson
Percival
Gildart
Burgess
Williams
Lomax
Thompson
Roby
Walmsley
Taia
Farrell
O’Loughlin

Knowles
Lees
Flower
Leaulai

What on earth are you on about? You used top try scorer as an indicator of the relative ability of two players. The words you've quoted above are from my post, not yours. You can't hide behind something you didn't even write! If you'd put 'such as' in your post, then fair enough. You didn't.

Frankly, you're not worth replying to. You haven't the slightest inkling of how to compose and maintain a coherent argument. So you resort to using individual soundbites with no meaning or substance whatsoever and stand back thinking you've been somehow profound.

I was aware that trying to hold a discussion with you reminded me of something but couldn't quite put my finger on it. Then my 5 year old tried to convince me they should have some more sweets before tea and suddenly it hit me. I think we'll leave it there.

Totally agree on Saints. They’ve got a top coach but it doesn’t take much for the deck of cards to come tumbling down. It’ll take longer for him to get poached by an Aussie club then it did with Maguire from us because he’s not at a club with as big a profile. He’ll go eventually and once he leaves and that front row is broken up by retirement and Thompson quits for the NRL we’ll then see just how average some of these players being lauded really are.

No doubting they’re the best side in superleague but it’s built totally on a top coach and a great front row. That will all get broken up within the next couple of years.

Absolutely spot on put their front row in Wigan shirts and Holbrook coaching us and I honestly believe we would be better than this current Saints side. They rely massively on these 2 factors.

What a silly post. Put tedesco, the Fox, Munster, Coyner etc in our team and we would be better than the current saints team.

We are light years ahead of your lot man for man

You were last year but I think the super league trophy still resides in Wigan

I have stood on grounds in July and called our season before later pulling myself around OT when we win the league.

We all laughed at Leeds for finishing 5th..."they won't beat x away, they won't go to Catalan on the same day (something all clubs now do) and win.....etc etc


Who....SERIOUSLY...will write Wigan off if we make the 5???? Imagine if we make the top 3 and have 2 chances? When did we last lose 2 playoff games?

2011