Well the Wigan end was chokka on Friday. Reading this thread beforehand I was expecting just a few to turn up. I suspect that your indignation isn't shared by the proper fans. Did you get over to Widnes by the way or do you just like having a moan?

If that's meant to imply that IL doesn't put his own money into the club, then you are sadly misinformed.

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And to imply dave whelan would be a better owner than IL is laughable,

IL put half a mil of his own cash in a few years ago.

I do carry the opinion that he does kind of seem conflicted with his position with the EFL and I maintain that the initial press release was absolutely awful PR.

Even Donald trump would make a better owner than tight arris whelan.

Maybe something we can agree on at last!

We both want what is best for the club we just have different routes for getting there.
IL is the best thing that has happened to this club probably since we signed Billy B
I don't always agree what he does and says but then again I'm just a crotchety owd fart.
He is obviously tied to what appears to be a one sided contract but on the postponement he made a bit of of a rickets of it.
I think we will agree that we appear this season so far at least, to have gone back to playing some proper rugby.
Looking forward to giving the Leythers a good ponning

Frankly, anyone who, after the last few years, thinks that IL is not a good chairman for Wigan needs their head examining.

Whatever the circumstances surrounding the stadium and our deal to play there - and let's remember that this was a deal put in place before IL took over, when the odds were very decisively in favour of the stadium-owner - the guy has delivered success after success. There barely seems to be a year now when we aren't in with a really good chance of winning silverware.

Let's just compare that to the era when Whelan and Mo were in charge. It was a desert. We got nowhere near winning anything, crowds were declining, we drifted steadily closer towards relegation (which would have been totally unthinkable even under the previous struggling administration) - there were rumours that journos were ringing the club during work hours and no-one even answered the phone. I think it's safe to say that, for all the promises made, we weren't much of a priority.

Now, under IL ... even if he does have other interests, we are back to being one of the British game's leading clubs. That is not just a coincidence. It can't have happened by accident.

I admit that the stadium situation is awkward and embarrassing, and it never seems to go away. Even though Latics are currently tanking, it seems obvious they are always going to have the upper hand. But ultimately, I'm not sure that's the end of the world - every so often when this kind of thing happens, it allows fans at the likes of Saints, Leeds and Latics to ignore their own problems by jeering at us for a day or two, but it's not stopped us winning trophies. This last weekend alone we beat a bunch of opponents who, if their public statements were to be believed, were really outraged by the trick we'd played on them and so had every reason to take our scalp.

I personally would love it if we could somehow find a way to guarantee that when we have a home fixture we will always be able to play it at home. But there are only two certainties about this: a) it isn't going to involve us buying or building a new stadium; and b) if anyone can sort that out, it's more likely to be someone like IL, who has already shown that he can and will do great things for the club, than someone who quite simply has other priorities.

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Good post and I think you deserve the final word on this. Let's move on to the actual rugby.

Cannot allow that to pass after IL's organising of the Oscars ceremony last night.

LP

So if it isn't a problem at other clubs how come Huddersfield have just had to bring this weeks home match forward to Thursday because the football club don't want the pitch spoiled for their game on Saturday and they have also demanded another game to be rearranged for the same reason. All this could and should have been avoided with more thought give to the fixture arranging.

It's more than giving more thought to fixture arranging. The biggest issue with this game is the football club pulled rank about 28 hours before we were due to kick off. With enough notice moving things about, although not ideal is workable.