You hang on to your top 2 in April trophy. When’s the parade?

Tha t seems a long,long time ago now

Going into the Warrington game I think we need to go back to basics with the team and start again and get some consistency maybe a bit of confidence as a result.

Pick a settled team:

1 - Field
2 - French
3 - King
4 - Wardle
5 - Marshall
6 - Cust
7 - Smith
8 - Singleton
9 - Powell
10 - Byrne
11 - Farrell
12 - Isa/Shorrocks
13 - Smithies

14 - Ellis
15 - Hill
16 - Mago
17 - Isa/Shorrocks/O’Neil

Play the next 3 games with this, adjust to suit after that.

In all seriousness based on last nights game I’d happily swap Cust and Hampshire for Brodie Croft, have that settled halfback partner for Smith and take a bit of pressure off him.

No different to the "our seasons over" talk in June.

We'll get some bodies back and we'll be tough to beat again. A bit like how Saints were losing games but are now winning them again. Amazing what happens when your best players are fit and able to play.

Forgot French so I changed it quickly after.

That quote from the Saints player should be printed off and pinned up in the training area for the forwards to take as a challenge.

He's right though and everyone knows it.

We have a 'weak' pack as it is and losing 4 or 5 of them makes it worse.

I’ve not said the season is over, I’m questioning the state of players within the side who have no competition and the lack of depth in the squad. We will most likely do what we always do and pick up some wins against the weaker sides and end up in the play offs before bowing out in another lacklustre big game. That Challenge Cup win last year hasn’t half painted over some gaping cracks, we were awful in that too for the majority. Our ‘culture’ at the minute is to not really strive to be the best but never mind, we have a cracking trophy cabinet and send whiskey to everyone so it’s all good.

When we played the Roosters in 2014 Radlinski wrote a blog saying we're too small a team - 9 years later and we're still too small in the forwards, especially the back row. That needs to be addressed as a matter of urgency for next season (along with a goal kicking 6).

Rads actually said at the time that the signings of Mago and Ellis were expressly for this reason.

Ellis is decent, puts in a shift but Mago is just Feka mk2 - in the second half against Saints he was so slow in the defensive line (turns like a supertanker) that he was pretty much a passenger, size isn't everything. We do need size but not at the cost of anything else - we desperately need at least one experienced heavyweight prop plus perhaps a decent impact prop, Saints have a good impact prop off the bench we don't.

I wasn't giving my opinion on the 2 players. I was merely pointing out, in response to the previous poster, that the issue of the pack size was mentioned as a reason for their signings. I think we all agree that Mago hasn't worked out. Ellis I like, and I'd like to see him stay. I'm reasonably confident we'll get 2 more "middles" as well as Walters.

I would definitely take the 06/07 version of Feka over Patrick Mago.

Except you won’t be tough to beat again because you never were. You are mid table for a reason. Your recruitment is woeful and has been for a number of years

If that is a fact can you explain how the mighty Saints came unstuck at the DW and in last season’s Challenge Cup semifinal?

By the way, I agree with you about our recruitment apart from Field and French.