Can I just ask the Brigantes though...

What is your opinion on putting stickers all over the place and the Cherry and White balaclava?

As I said on a previous post, you have done a great job, just wondering what your view on this was?

I can't speak for the group but my personal opinion is:

The stickers are a bit of fun that don't do any real harm as they tend to just fall off, but it depends where they're stuck.
I disagree 100% with the balaclava.

If you have been leaving "Wigan Ultras" stickers plastered around the ground at Hull KR don't be suprised to see a welcoming committee waiting for the "Ultras" when you got back later this year.

You may consider them a bit of fun but it could easily be seen as a "challenge" on somebody's "territory" by others with that mindset.

I wouldn't advise sticking them anywhere when you visit Warrington this season.


Beyond that this thread is comedy gold. I'm guessing it was Banksy with spray-paint in hand in the cherry and white balaclava.

Stickers and Spraypaint

I have some pasta shells and glitter that you can play with if you want, men.

"Comedy gold" which requires an aggressive reply from a Warrington fan.... Says it all really.......

Agressive reply?

I guess people see what they want to see.

As have you...

So Warrington fans are going to get upset if someone sticks a sticker in the town?

Conroy, put me down for 100 stickers please!

enough said really.

What's your point? I wasn't disagreeing with you.

The word ultra has been used because the football groups use it. I don't see why people are getting their knickers in a twist because they can't accept that using the term is provocative and seem to be dying to contextualize it until it is just a meaningless word. If it was meaningless it wouldn't have been used.

Why use a label which (as has been mentioned by those including 'members') has been tainted by football groups when literally any could have been used? It just doesn't make any sense to me and seems to be deliberately chosen with either bad taste or bad intentions in mind; the balaclava's would provoke the same response in many.

Some of the posts from Brigantes members on here take me back to Primary school and the days of having gangs. It seems that some are more than a touch sensitive to any form of criticism but at the same time are more than willing to accept any compliments that go their way. This along with talk of policing the Brigantes, the Brigantes brand etc and people wanting this thread locked just because there is criticism make it sound more like a communist dictatorship whose word is final than a group of supporters. The last time I looked this forum wasnt a vehicle for the Brigantes and was for Wigan Rugby League. I would have thought this thread was a cracking way of taking peoples concerns on board and trying to improve things. Instead though I think the hostility shown towards any criticism, no matter how minor, has simply served to alienate some Wigan fans even more.

On the term Ultras every person I know when asked about this thinks of this as being a hooligan term. Whether people in the Brigantes like it or not a large percentage of people think this way and importantly people from other clubs think this way. There is simply no need to use this word and there are plenty of alternatives that could be used. As posters from other clubs have said plastering oppostion grounds with Wigan Ultra stickers is just asking for trouble further down the line because as we know all clubs have idiots and things like this are just all the excuse they need. If fans from Warrington plastered Warrington stickers all over the JJB there would be outrage on this board. Again this is all needless so why not just drop the Ultra tag and use one of the many more firiendly alternatives. People are trying to defend it by saying Ultras in a Rugby League context means something else. Well for a start there is no Ultras in a Rugby League context because no one has used it before, for obvious reasons, and it is simply a term copied from other sports. It should be no shock to anyone if that meaning is also brought across too. Some people are also saying that Ultra isnt a hooligan term and means above the norm and supporting their club in extraordinary ways. If this doesnt mean they think they are better than the average fan then I dont know what does. I, and I know others, think some Brigantes members think they are somehow better than the average fan and if the Ultra term means this to Brigantes members then it just reinforces this even more.

Other non-Brigantes Wigan fans raise valid concerns about drumming etc and they are called a sad old men. Surely instead of replying with such hostility Brigantes should be trying to appeal to all Wigan fans and take peoples concerns on board. The Brigantes, who at the end of the day are a very small minority of Wigan fans, are certainly making it seem like it is a case of if you are not with them, and if you dont agree with everything they say and do, then you are against them. Surely this should not be the case and it definately isnt the best way of getting people on board.

This is why people shouldn't post about the 'ultra' thing when they don't have a clue about that particular scene.

Ultras are in many sports all across europe, these include... Basketball, Handball, Waterpolo, Rugby Union, Swimming, Ice-hockey, Speedway, Aussie Rules, Motor sports, Volleyball, Gaelic Football....

It is a way of supporting your team beyond the norm. That is all. It is not just a football thing, it was just birthed there. We wouldn't say Rugby League is just a Huddersfield thing.

Jeeeeeeesus christ you are bumming this "will you break the drum?" when you know he isnt going to do so. Stop milking it flower