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| Wire do seem to take alot of our youngsters.
Has it worked out for them there or are they all ending out like Scott Leatherbarrow back at Wigan with their tails between their legs, playing for the under 20s while people who stayed when he was here (sam) run the show in SL
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| Quote: The Ginger Pearl "Wire do seem to take alot of our youngsters.
Has it worked out for them there or are they all ending out like Scott Leatherbarrow back at Wigan with their tails between their legs, playing for the under 20s while people who stayed when he was here (sam) run the show in SL
Guess it depends on how many 30+ year old Aussies they decide to add to their collection
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| Quote: Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy "You might have noticed that once that certain poster is struggling he seems to bring out something completely unrelated to the discussion and disappears. Not for the first time either.'"
And here's me thinking that once you acknowledged that once a player has been paid-up he is removed from the salary cap calculation and therefore does not count on the salary cap, are you now saying again that termination payments count on the salary cap?
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| Quote: Paul Youane "And here's me thinking that once you acknowledged that once a player has been paid-up he is removed from the salary cap calculation and therefore does not count on the salary cap, are you now saying again that termination payments count on the salary cap?'"
Where did I say anything different? Not been reading properly again I see.
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| Quote: Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy "Any contract termination payment will count on the club's cap in the year it is made.'"
Here.
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| Quote: Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy "Depends on the termination conditions and payments which have to be Ok'd by the RFL as reasonable and which would need to make sure they didn't go over the cap in the year they related to. You can't just pay players off and not have it effect your cap.
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and here
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| Quote: Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy "you'll wouldn't have embarrassed yourself by saying termination payments don't count against the cap.
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and here.
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| haha... apart from there then.
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| Quote: Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy "Again you completely miss the point. All I've stated is that termination payments count on the cap which you original disputed, and have been proved wrong (again).Termination payments are not salary and will still count on the cap.
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and again.
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| thats only 4 times paul.... cut the guy some slack.
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| Exactly, I haven't said anything different for you to then say
Quote: "are you now saying again that termination payments count on the salary cap'"
I've been saying it all along. Jebus.
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| Quote: Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy "Exactly, I haven't said anything different for you to then say
I've been saying it all along. Jebus.'"
But they don't. The cap is calculated based upon the first tier players "at that time" hence why it is referred to as a "live cap".
When a player is removed from either the club's first or second tier any payments made to them, either as previously paid salary or as a termination payment, does not therefore count on the cap.
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| Quote: The Ginger Pearl "Wire do seem to take alot of our youngsters.'"
Humour me by listing them all out.
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| Quote: Paul Youane "But they don't. The cap is calculated based upon the first tier players "at that time" hence why it is referred to as a "live cap".
When a player is removed from either the club's first or second tier any payments made to them, either as previously paid salary or as a termination payment, does not therefore count on the cap.'"
As I pointed out on page 8 their "original" salary cap value falls off, and there is also mention of making sure payments do not take a club over their cap limit.
If this didn't happen there is the possibility of clubs spending considerably more than the cap on players over the course of a season if they decided to get rid of some and replace them, which will all know would be against the "spirit" of the cap.
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| Jack reed to sign a 3 year deal with wigan worth 500k - watch this space
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