I was half thinking that.......we need a monster pack to have any chance IMO....if theres a way we can get Peacock, Morely, Carvell, Burgess, and Graham starting we should do it using Crabtree off the bench.

Pack of Morley, Roby, Graham
Peacock, Carvell
Burgess
and your talking for me!! Thats the only way we'll do em.

Ellis has to be centre, he may not have the speed but at least he'll match inglis and hodges in strength etc. Stick shenton in there and he'll get steam rollered!!

The big thing that worries me is the No9 situation. Roby is just not a leader, and Moore is untested. Look at the Aussie's they have Cam Smith, we have J. Roby WTF no comparison. I still see Roby as a player coming off the bench. But would like to see Burrows on the bench as a make shift hooker.

1. Starting pack

8. Graham
9. Moore
10. Peacock
11. Ellis
12. O' Loughlin
13. Sinfield

The other problem for me is the centre's, who in the England squad is going to stop Falou, Hayne, Inglis, Hodges??? Bridge, Eastmond, Shenton, Smith. Don't fancy any of our players chance's against them. Maybe take a gamble play Ellis & Lockers in the centre's and have a pack of

2. Starting Pack

8.Graham
9. Moore
10. Morley
11. Peacock
12. Westwood/Wilkin
13. Sinfield

Don't fancy being Tony Smith and having to sort out that one.

Morley hasn't played 2nd row since he left Leeds, and no way is he athletic, or mobile enough for the back row any more. Same goes for JP. I think we need to go with a large front and try and atleast match the Aussies. We won't dominate them up front, Civoneciva, and Price maybe getting on but they are two of the best props the game has ever seen. And, no matter how many meteres Graham makes in SL he's still got a lot to prove at test level, and for some reason I just don't see him being able to be as effective at test level as he is in SL. Personnally I'd have Crabtree on the bench as he has the ability to offload which is something our pack is lacking.

We need a pacey back row, speed in the pack is just as important as in the backs IMO. Thats why Ellis has to stay in the pack.

my team would be:

Smith
Fox
Shenton
Bridge (who else? I would have had Pryce in the squad instead of Sykes)
Hall
Tomkins
McGuire
Graham
Roby
Peacock
Ellis
Burgess
Sinfield / Flanders (who plays depends on, whether Smith thinks one of McGuire or Tomkins, has a good enough kicking game, and organisational skills)

Eastmond
Morley
Crabtree
Carvell/Westwood

I have now decided.

Graham
Sinfield
Peacock
Burgess
Morley
O'Loughlin

To start with.

I mentioned something like that earlier today at work, but I went for

Graham (Yardage and work rate)
Sinfield (Leadership and organisational skills)
Morley (Big hits)
Peacock (Work rate and inspiration)
Ellis (Work rate and tackling)
Lockers (Work rate, tackiling, the best 13 in the squad)

Burgess, Carvell, Crabtree on the bench.